Member Since: 25 May 2017
Location: Dorset
Posts: 95
Timed / Remote Climate - not particularly warm
Lots of use for Timed and Remote Climate at the moment. My FBH appears to be working as use of Timed/Remote results in an instant start without waiting for the glow plugs. Snow/ice/frost on the bonnet is melted above the FBH and the FBH can be heard working.
That said, the cabin temp isn't particularly warm, even after a full 20 minute FBH cycle. A little frost is cleared from the windscreen and on less brisk days the air is marginally warmer than outside but it's still pretty damned chilly in there. I know it prioritises engine coolant temp but still...
Is this a normal thing? If so, I wouldn't say Remote Climate was particularly useful at warming the cabin prior to you getting in and starting the engine.
PS. Also, if the engine coolant temp is not stone cold, remote climate actually cools the interior by drawing in unheated outside air and not kicking in the FBH. Hmm.
28th Feb 2018 10:00 am
azure111s
Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
This has been exactly my experience in both FFRR L322 and D4. It's nothing more than a 'defroster', IMO.LR history:
2016 D4 Landmark
2012 Defender 110 XS 2.4
2011 FFRR Vogue SE
2002 Defender 90 H/T Td5
2008 D3 XS TDV6
2006 D3 S TDV6
1996 D1 300 Tdi
Some overlaps involved & other marques interspersed!
28th Feb 2018 10:49 am
zinke
Member Since: 22 Feb 2014
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 584
20 mins isn’t really long enough to get things “warm” in cab if sub freezing temps, especially on a D4 where the fans come on too, it will just make it easier on the engine starting and warm the cabin slightly. In these temps I run mine about 30-40 mins. If you look on the fbh section there are a few posts about it.
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28th Feb 2018 10:53 am
dgardel
Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: Greater Venice
Posts: 2025
this happen because most of us have activated the parking remote function without adding the additional 3-ways valve....
with the 3-way valve, the car pump all the heated water only to the cabin circuit.....
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For the installation it is necessary to change several hoses..
from
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callout 18472C (LR013676) (without FBH Valve)
The Timed climate control system provides a comfortable temperature inside the cabin in advance of the driver and passengers entering the vehicle.
The Auxiliary heater is also operated to warm the engine and aid starting in very cold conditions.
NOTES
If the Auxiliary heater is used to warm the engine, the cabin will not be warmed.
So basically, in cold temperatures (which is exactly when you would want to use it), it does not warm the cabin. Nice one LR!
However this document http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/se...ontrol.pdf states:
If the external temperature is between +15°C
(59°F) and -20°C (-4°F), then the passenger
compartment is heated using the engine's
auxiliary heater. If the external temperature is
below -20°C (-4°F), the heat is automatically
directed to the engine to assist engine starting
Once the engine has been heated sufficiently
heat will be directed to enable cabin heating
providing battery state of charge is sufficient
Maybe they changed the logic for certain model years?
28th Feb 2018 1:01 pm
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
Posts: 3079
Mine was enabled on an XS and definitely blows warm air through the vents, but it is just that - warm not hot. Getting in the vehicle on a frosty morning, the glass is clear, the interior temperature is 'not freezing cold' but just bearable in shirt sleeves, so it's fantastic, but I'd never use the term 'toasty warm' as often gets used on this forum.D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
28th Feb 2018 1:07 pm
ecs0set
Member Since: 25 May 2017
Location: Dorset
Posts: 95
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
Posts: 2518
on my old BAS kit i could run it for 40 mins and all was toasty now on the OEM kit i get 20 mins max and its warmish but no where like the old kit
but at least i dont have to scrape the screen and warm up time when running is reduced so its still a good piece of kitMY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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