Member Since: 07 Apr 2015
Location: Wanborough
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Propshaft centre bearing
Just had the service done on my Disco and been told the propshaft centre bearing needs to be replaced. Option is either a new shaft or a Britpart bearing kit. The local specialists reckon they have started getting quite a lot of these in recently and have fitted the Britpart bearing with no issues.
Reading on here, several people have reported that there are problems with the CV joint locking on re-assembly, but digging into it that seemed to originate from one person on one thread (who acknowledged that they may have re-assembled it wrong as they didn't mark it) so I am not too concerned about that. Also a report from a propshaft specialist who reckoned you had to cut and reweld the shaft to change the bearing which isn't the case with the Britpart solution.
So I was wondering, how many people here have first hand experience of the Britpart solution and if it worked for them (as opposed to deciding to change the whole prop to be on the safe side, which I can understand)?
23rd Apr 2015 6:01 pm
highlands
Member Since: 10 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
Posts: 5098
Is it the actual bearing that has gone, or the rubber around it?
If the latter, the £10 fix on mine is still going strong.
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23rd Apr 2015 10:16 pm
Nodge68
Member Since: 05 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1014
Re: Propshaft centre bearing
Bungle wrote:
Just had the service done on my Disco and been told the propshaft centre bearing needs to be replaced. Option is either a new shaft or a Britpart bearing kit. The local specialists reckon they have started getting quite a lot of these in recently and have fitted the Britpart bearing with no issues.
Reading on here, several people have reported that there are problems with the CV joint locking on re-assembly, but digging into it that seemed to originate from one person on one thread (who acknowledged that they may have re-assembled it wrong as they didn't mark it) so I am not too concerned about that. Also a report from a propshaft specialist who reckoned you had to cut and reweld the shaft to change the bearing which isn't the case with the Britpart solution.
So I was wondering, how many people here have first hand experience of the Britpart solution and if it worked for them (as opposed to deciding to change the whole prop to be on the safe side, which I can understand)?
I recently changed my propshaft as the centre bearing rubber support had failed.
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I would normally have replaced the bearing but with the Mot only a few days away and having read the pitfalls, I decided to swap the shaft out instead. Now I've looked in detail at the failed shaft, I feel confident that the bearing can be changed.
I did read about the stiff CV after assembly but that shouldn't be an issue if the CV is marked up first. Just for information, the new shaft CV joints stick if they are articulated to far!
At some point I will try to split the shaft without taking the CV apart, in much the same way a normal CV joint is removed. This would eliminate any need to disturb the CV in the first place.Freelander SE 2005 Auto.
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24th Apr 2015 11:14 am
Bungle
Member Since: 07 Apr 2015
Location: Wanborough
Posts: 256
Highlands: Yes, saw your Sikaflex solution! I have to say I am astounded you don't get vibration issues as I would have thought the "give" of Sikaflex would be different to the give of the rubber bush. If I needed a quick fix to keep me running for a while I would give it a go but at the moment the Disco is my 2nd vehicle so I can cope with it being off the road while I spend some time on it.
Nodge68: Thanks for the confidence boost
7th May 2015 4:54 pm
Gazellio
Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130
What are symptoms is a) constant whine or only on b) acceleration c) overrun?
7th May 2015 5:06 pm
HughMartin
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 751
I think you will find its more than one who thinks a new propshaft is the sensible solution. A few comments on this thread;-
Member Since: 07 Apr 2015
Location: Wanborough
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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars wrote:
What are symptoms is a) constant whine or only on b) acceleration c) overrun?
Actually no symptoms, other than when you are underneath you can shake it around in the breeze! Amazing really, I would have expected it to be making horrendous vibrations....
7th May 2015 5:41 pm
Bungle
Member Since: 07 Apr 2015
Location: Wanborough
Posts: 256
HughMartin wrote:
I think you will find its more than one who thinks a new propshaft is the sensible solution. A few comments on this thread;-
Yep, saw that thread, hence my original comments..... One person who ended up with a locked joint reckoned they probably reassembled the CV joint incorrectly (and as earlier in this thread, if you articulate it too far it will lock up) and one who said a propshaft specialist reckoned you would have to cut and weld, which clearly isn't the case.
I am getting the distinct impression that lots of people are saying don't do it so no-one does. But other than one person who had a go nearly four years ago and left us a lesson of something to watch out for, I can't actually find anyone who a) has done it and it has been successful or b) has done it and had a failure. One reassembly that went wrong isn't exactly statistically valid!
7th May 2015 5:47 pm
Gazellio
Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130
Bungle wrote:
Gazellio @ Prestige Cars wrote:
What are symptoms is a) constant whine or only on b) acceleration c) overrun?
Actually no symptoms, other than when you are underneath you can shake it around in the breeze! Amazing really, I would have expected it to be making horrendous vibrations....
I asked as on an L322 Range Rover its makes a droning sound but is easily replaceable.
7th May 2015 6:21 pm
scaniaman
Member Since: 01 Jan 2014
Location: Dumfries, Scotland
Posts: 84
I done my propshaft bearing about six months ago and its not failed. I never used the britpart bearing I used a freebie from one of my suppliers of truck parts. It looked to have a heavier duty rubber in it than the standard one. I also got a second hand propshaft of a mate who replaced his with a new one due to a small one inch tear in the rubber. I checked out the splines for wear, well just stuck the whole prop on my vehicle and took for a run no vibrations or knocks when taking up drive so game on .
Read on here hardest part was getting it to seal again and that is the biggest problem. I worked my way round the lip only moving enough to slide it over the o ring. I replaced the o ring with a new one when building back together and used silicone sealer just behind the o ring as well. Built back up and lip chapped back down and a run of sealer round the lip as well. Fitted and took for a run, on return I found a ring of grease round the fuel tank, underside of car and exhaust. Found a pin hole in the silicon and I mean a pin hole. Think maybe to quick to road test, sealer not 100% set. Cleaned up round hole and applied more silicone, left to dry and tried again in the morning all ok. Checked daily for about a week after but all Ok. Changed in tank pump last week and made a point of checking prop and all looks to be ok.
My original had been tiger sealed and was still stuck when removed.
Tip for rebuilding
Mark everything relative to other parts.
When rebuilding build up in two parts. Don't put the two half's together and try to put the balls back in and bend over the part you have to seal.
Build up the balls inside the cup. Pack with cv grease, fit and seal the part you had to prise open then using your marks slide the propshaft splines into the part you have just rebuilt and push home till circlip catches. If it pulls back out its not right home, probably due to two much grease inside .
7th May 2015 7:04 pm
Nodge68
Member Since: 05 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1014
Bungle wrote:
Gazellio @ Prestige Cars wrote:
What are symptoms is a) constant whine or only on b) acceleration c) overrun?
Actually no symptoms, other than when you are underneath you can shake it around in the breeze! Amazing really, I would have expected it to be making horrendous vibrations....
I was shocked to find the shaft all floppy where the centre bearing should support it. I got absolutely no vibration at all at any speed. It wasn't until I got under the car far a quick check over before the Mot that I noticed the failed bearing. I did swap out the whole shaft instead of replacing the bearing but only because of time constraints. I've still got the old shaft and fully intend looking into bearing replacement when time allows.Freelander SE 2005 Auto.
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7th May 2015 9:04 pm
highlands
Member Since: 10 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
Posts: 5098
Bungle wrote:
Highlands: Yes, saw your Sikaflex solution! I have to say I am astounded you don't get vibration issues as I would have thought the "give" of Sikaflex would be different to the give of the rubber bush. If I needed a quick fix to keep me running for a while I would give it a go but at the moment the Disco is my 2nd vehicle so I can cope with it being off the road while I spend some time on it.
The quick fix is fine after several years and no vibration, even at 3 figure speeds where appropriate!Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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7th May 2015 9:45 pm
wizz80
Member Since: 06 Feb 2010
Location: devon
Posts: 105
Well i have done a few using a britpart bearing with no issues but yesterday i done one and when put back together had bad vibration at 50mph. I could not see anything wrong with what i had done so changed the whole lot for a new complete shaft and problem gone
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