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Sammyboy
 


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13 Pin Trailer Socket

Where can I find fitting instruction for a 13 pin trailer electrical socket. In particular the location of where it plugs into the D4 including the purpose and colour of the wires? Bow down
  
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nigethecat
 


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All plugs in behind the removable cover on the left hand side of the boot (as you look in), wouldn't you much rather just buy a plug and play kit from someone like AF?... will save you hours of messing around and cutting wires etc... just plugs straight into the connectors already there...

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/vplat001...6074-p.asp


Someone on here may also have one going spare...
 I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!

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Sammyboy
 


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Thank you very. Thumbs Up

Already have one fitted but wanted to tap into some of the wires to add an accessory in the boot.
  
Post #203585011th Mar 2019 9:15 am
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Instructions PDF: https://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/us..._-_13P.pdf

Wiring diagram:
https://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/us...socket.pdf

This is from 2014 D4 but all D4 are essentially the same for this.
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Sammyboy
 


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That's great. Thank you. Thumbs Up
  
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Not to hi jack the thread, but I've got 7n 7s sockets on mine and want to swap to a 13 pin. Can I just buy a 13 pin socket and wire it up using the wires that currently go in to 7n and s sockets without any issues or is there a different kit i can buy to convert from 7n&s to 13pin without buying a kit which has most of the bits i've probably already got?

Hope that makes sense
   
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See https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic152765.html

The 13 pin part of the loom is significantly more than buying a decent 13 pin socket and re-wiring, but it maintains the fully waterproof/encapsulated nature of the socket wiring.
 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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Sammyboy
 


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Martin wrote:
Instructions PDF: https://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/us..._-_13P.pdf

Wiring diagram:
https://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/us...socket.pdf

This is from 2014 D4 but all D4 are essentially the same for this.


Hi Martin

When I look at the wire colours coming out of Cable 'H' on your first link the colours do not agree with those above.

There are 3 plugs:

1 plug has:

Yellow
White
Green

1 plug has:

Brown
Blue
Red
Black

1 plug has:

White
Red/White
Red/White (yes two the same)
Yellow /Brown
Blue/Pink

I was wanting to tap into:

Live = Orange on Pin 9
IGN = Grey on Pin 10

but neither of these colours are there.

Any ideas Bow down
  
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nigethecat’s diagram is generic 13 pin diagram not LR or D4 specific. I uploaded the D4 diagram for you with the correct colours.

Look at the D4 wiring diagram, to the column of pin/socket connections just to the left of the two boxes on the right (these boxes represent the 12N+12S sockets, the 13 pin is just a combination of them).

Connector with Yellow/White/Green is C1414A
Connector with Brown/Blue/Red/Black is C1415A
Connector with other colours is C1416A

The socket pins are even labelled in the tow socket boxes so you can find:

Permanent 12V as Blue+Pink
Ignition 12V as Red+White
 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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Knew I’d done this before!

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/wiring-sche...65627.html
 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
Any issues with the site let me know! 
 
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Martin wrote:
nigethecat’s diagram is generic 13 pin diagram not LR or D4 specific. I uploaded the D4 diagram for you with the correct colours.

Look at the D4 wiring diagram, to the column of pin/socket connections just to the left of the two boxes on the right (these boxes represent the 12N+12S sockets, the 13 pin is just a combination of them).

Connector with Yellow/White/Green is C1414A
Connector with Brown/Blue/Red/Black is C1415A
Connector with other colours is C1416A

The socket pins are even labelled in the tow socket boxes so you can find:

Permanent 12V as Blue+Pink
Ignition 12V as Red+White


Great explanation Martin, thank you very much. Just need to determine why there are two wires in the same plug that are red/white and which one (or both) is IGN.
  
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Martin
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Check it again as there should be two plain White and one white+red.
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Sammyboy
 


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Just checked....your correct on the car side socket where the loom plugs into. However on the loom plug there is a predominantly red wire with a thin white stripe and a predominantly white wire with a thin red stripe. It looks as if the predominantly white with a thin red stripe is connected/opposite to one of the two white wires on the socket side.
  
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adaptor available for 13 to 7
  
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