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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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Shamrock wrote:Take care ! From 1st November, ONLY 3PMSF tyres are accepted in the locations shown on the map ! Simple "M+S" are no longer suffisant, except if you have snow socks or chains onboard.
https://www.securite-routiere.gouv.fr/chac...e/nouveaux
Isn't that from 1 November 2024?
Quote:Winter tyres, within the meaning of the decree, are tires covered by the “3PMSF” designation (3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake), identifiable by the presence of the “Alpine symbol” marking and one of the “M+S” markings. ”, “M.S” or “M&S”.
Until November 1, 2024, snow tires only marked "M+S" will be tolerated.
All-season tires (4S, All Weather, All Season) have no regulatory definition: to be considered winter tyres, they must be stamped "3PMSF", or at least "M+S" for the period transitory for the first 3 years of application of the new regulations.
Vehicles with studded tires are exempt from equipment obligations.
(translated by Google) Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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 16th Nov 2022 11:56 am |
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Shamrock
Member Since: 16 Jun 2022
Location: South Kerry
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Oh yes, you're right ! 1st November 2024 !
I forgot that French rules are always for a distant future... 
Sorry for that.
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| 16th Nov 2022 12:01 pm |
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AdamB
Member Since: 18 Jan 2023
Location: Thurrock
Posts: 148
 
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I'm currently driving a Fiesta ST with Michelin Pilot Sport 4's, the lack of grip in sub zero conditions did get me thinking that my old D2 with which had some aggressive AT tyres would probably grip better than this does. We don't have long enough cold spells to make people see the value in fitting winter rubber but on this evidence there is a lot to be said for it.
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| 18th Jan 2023 8:39 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
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There is an increasing number of true all-season tyres coming through now - sometimes called "winter-rated summer tyres". These work near enough as well as a summer tyre in the summer and nearly as well as a winter tyre in winter. No need to swap tyres anymore for most people.
Sure, in extremis the dedicated tyre will be better, but for most people's daily use - trips to the supermarket, work or the school run - a decent all-season tyre will be an excellent choice.
The issue, as ever, is that far too many people insist on putting cheap tyres on their cars. Never understood it, as the tyre is the only thing that gets you around that fast-approaching corner, or stops you from hitting that now-stationary car ahead. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 18th Jan 2023 10:02 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
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Indeed. 
I have Michelin Cross Climate tyres on two of my cars, one is a front wheel drive the other rear. Brilliant all year round tyres. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 18th Jan 2023 11:14 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
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And for those SUVs that never venture off tarmac, they do an SUV version too. Which neatly avoids the issue raised in the OP, of course. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 18th Jan 2023 11:16 pm |
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