maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Major chip on SWMBO's RRS this morning 
Too big, I suspect, to be repaired, though they are going to give it a go.
Contacted Admiral's glass people - National Windscreens - and told them I want LR OEM windscreen not an old aftermarket cr  p. They said it depends on whether the insurer will cover it.
Anyone know if Admiral will cover OEM glass or do I have a right to insist on it?
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 20th Mar 2013 1:09 pm |
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ZacSmith
Member Since: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Dover
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No and no.
Although to be fair, I have no complaints about the generic version I have now following replacement by National Windscreens on Admiral's behalf. VIN: A175A328***
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| 20th Mar 2013 1:26 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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from experience ...its the same glass .,..just dosent have the LR badge on
if you wait till Friday i can tell you deffinatly ...mines booked in ( Admiral and national windscreens ) G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 20th Mar 2013 1:44 pm |
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MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
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Landrover don't make the glass they just get there name stamped on it, why does everyone think that if it hasn't LR stamped on it then it's not for them.
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| 20th Mar 2013 1:51 pm |
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Woolmeister
Member Since: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Chandler's Ford
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Made by Pilkington? Not Karl.  2021 BMW iX3 Premier Edition in Carbon Black ⚡️🔌
2019 Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 Tdi 190 DSG Sportline in Quartz Grey. Excellent vehicle. Gone.
2017 Discovery Sport HSE Auto in Carpathian Grey and Ebony Leather. Modern JLR Junk. Gone.
2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual in Zermatt Silver with Ebony Cloth (143k) Gone, but now patrolling the Asia section of the West Midlands Safari Park!
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| 20th Mar 2013 1:53 pm |
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maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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I appreciate that LR don't actually make the glass, like most items. But a LR OEM product will have been made to LR standards, whereas an aftermarket one is made to someone else's, which might be just as good, there again it might not. I just don't want to take that chance if I don't have to.
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| 20th Mar 2013 1:59 pm |
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maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Wiggs - thanks, it will be good to know what you get  They are booked to try and repair it on Monday so may not be an issue anyway.
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| 20th Mar 2013 2:01 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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Previous one I had on the D4 was stamped with LR ... But as said there all made by pilkington anyway G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 20th Mar 2013 2:24 pm |
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UNG
Member Since: 20 Jun 2008
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maddogsetc wrote:I appreciate that LR don't actually make the glass, like most items. But a LR OEM product will have been made to LR standards, whereas an aftermarket one is made to someone else's, which might be just as good, there again it might not. I just don't want to take that chance if I don't have to.
I think you will find that they are all made to the standards applicable to the market where the vehicles are sold
Google "windscreen standards" for the info can't see Land Rover creating their own standards outside the scope of any international standards it wouldn't make sense "Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
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| 20th Mar 2013 2:45 pm |
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MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
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Yes I don't think LR determine the standard. Lets be honest here if that's the case I would be willing to try other parts as the amount of failed genuine LR part wouldn't be the lowest.
What I am trying to say is people get all wrapped up in the brand, and end up not seeing the woods for the trees.
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| 20th Mar 2013 7:16 pm |
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maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Ok, going a bit  here (but as I'm the OP I guess that should be ok!), I'm not sure I totally agree with the above. Ok, so windscreens may not be the best example as the number of manufacturers is low and the opportunities for cost savings in manufacturing are limited. But take brake pads for example. Do we really think that all aftermarket products are as good as OEM?
Maybe my choice of the word 'standards' is misleading. What I was trying to say is that LR (or BMW, Mercedes, whoever) set the specifications of the product, which in this case includes a heating element, rain sensor and light sensor. So buying a LR branded product means that it will meet the same specification as that originally fitted.
An aftermarket product may be just as good (which by dint of the restricted supply is probably true in the case of windscreens) or it may not (which in the case of brake pads it often is emphatically not).
Take tyres as another example, if your insurance company were to provide a new set of cheap boots from China in replacement for your Pirellis, Goodyears etc. would you be happy? If they are for sale in the UK then they no doubt meet the 'standards'.
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| 20th Mar 2013 8:11 pm |
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DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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If they use the non LR ones (Pilkington) that Autoglass use don't worry about it, they are exactly the same except the LR badge. I've compared them side by side on 2 D3s and can't tell any difference.
But all academic, if your insurer says non LR you don't have much choice. Downside to "value" insurance.
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| 20th Mar 2013 8:17 pm |
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maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Yep that's true of course and sounds like it's where we're heading!
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| 20th Mar 2013 8:21 pm |
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DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin
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How big is the chip? ISTR if it's in the swept area and can be covered by a 20p coin it can be repaired (apart from 10cm either side of a line through the centre of the steering wheel projected on to the screen).
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| 20th Mar 2013 8:26 pm |
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maddogsetc
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Hampshire
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Windscreen co. says its a 5p coin but I had forgotten about the position rule. Should pass the 5p test but I think it might fall foul of the steering wheel rule 
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| 20th Mar 2013 8:44 pm |
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