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Winch Choice for the hidden mount
Can anyone using a hidden winch mount (courtesy of Uncle Ray or other sources) tell me what type of winch they have fitted please? Not sure what to go for by way of type/size. Not asking about load rating, more the actual dimensions etc.
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21st Sep 2007 10:27 am
10forcash
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Any of the low profile frames should be OK - i.e. those which have a remoe solenoid pack (or one that can be adapted to make it remote) the mounting hole pitch seems to be common across most manufacturers
21st Sep 2007 11:38 am
CFB
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Thanks Iain, will get one ordered. 2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
21st Sep 2007 11:54 am
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As TFC said ...when i was looking for mine all the mounting brackets holes were the same ..
I think they were 10" X 4.5" ..if my memory serves me correctly.G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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21st Sep 2007 5:02 pm
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An issue to be aware of is that some of the beefier winches (like the Warn 12000) require a feet-forward mounting position (still 10" x 4.5") that will not fit in a hidden winch tray. Also, many times the bodies of the winch are substantially larger than the mounting bolt footprint.
I found this out the hard way. BTW, anyone want to pickup (in US) a new Warn 12000 on discount?
Also, with some winches the end casing for the clutch arm can be unbolted, rotated 1 or 2 bolt positions & rebolted. That way the clutch control arm can be repositioned for better access or clearance in a tray.
23rd Sep 2007 9:45 pm
CFB
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Decided to try one of these as I know it will fit (cheers Wiggs)
Sure it is no Warn but at the price it is a real bargain. For the amount of times I will use it it's worth a gamble and can be replaced by a better one if it isn't up to the mark.
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23rd Sep 2007 9:52 pm
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phurley wrote:
Also, with some winches the end casing for the clutch arm can be unbolted, rotated 1 or 2 bolt positions & rebolted. That way the clutch control arm can be repositioned for better access or clearance in a tray.
This is true ...but the position of the hidden mount ..and the gap through the grill make's it impossible to reachG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
23rd Sep 2007 10:33 pm
TazDaz
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seems too good to be true at that price - but I see he has some others as well on auction
ceratinly falls within my budget - I think I'll bid on one
HELP ! which one? motocoemi @ buy it now or the same one that Coteboy has just got.
23rd Sep 2007 10:35 pm
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There all much the same ..the only thing i noticed when i got one was the gear ratio...i got 187,2 : 1 high speed ...a lot of the others are 265:1 ...mainly a speed thing , but the warn one that LR fit as standard is close'est to 187,2 : 1.G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
23rd Sep 2007 11:03 pm
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I just bid on one - hope it fits...
I'll check with you at Tong on the next bit, Andy (cfb), if I may...
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24th Sep 2007 10:51 am
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Someone bid past me whilst I was out
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25th Sep 2007 10:06 am
TazDaz
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NB I checked on a few other forums regarding these - they are made in China (what isn't these days.. )
some of the 'purists' say they're cheap and nasty but who knows? For the price they seem worth a try.
Someone also suggested looking at http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/index.html but don't take the web site price phone them for a deal ! HTH
26th Sep 2007 10:02 pm
CFB
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I am not expecting the winch to be great for the price but I will give it a go. Most times when I have needed a winch it has been for a bit of help up a slippery or rocky slope or step and the winch hasn't had to do much. If it is crap I will re-sell it on eBay and buy a better one. Still down to price though, a decent branded winch with radio remote control will set me back around £700-£800 so at around £220 it is worth a punt.2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
26th Sep 2007 10:10 pm
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Thanks TD
I'll watch this one closer
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BTW, anyone want to pickup (in US) a new Warn 12000 on discount? 
seems too good to be true at that price - but I see he has some others as well on auction
motocoemi @ buy it now or the same one that Coteboy has just got.
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