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Wheel spacers

Does anyone have any experience with wheel spacers? Especially those of you already running larger tyres; will moving the wheel 25mm out prevent the wheels from rubbing, or will it only creat a new problem with the wheel arches? I'm thinking of running 285/60-18 wheels.
  
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It will apply extra pressure to the bearings, long term I would want to do it.
 
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Depends on the offset of the wheels you are fitting, putting a std wheel 25mm further out will change the steering geometry and loading and put the wheel bearings under additional strain.

Not sure about the 18" options but fitting RRS 19" rims gives a wider rim than the D3 19" but fits without any clearence or spacer being required for example.
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as posted in another thread today.
I've been running 295/45's but in 20" for over 40k miles.
not had any steering, bearing issues
[just through MOT a few weeks ago].

But rubbing may be your biggest issue.
it's dependant on the wheel offset.
if so, spacers may be the answer.
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ronp wrote:
I've been running 295/45's but in 20" for over 40k miles.
not had any steering, bearing issues


But I doubt whether the centreline of your 295 tyres have moved more than a few mm from std - and certainly will be very close to where a std RRS rim would have it - which the suspension/steering geometry is designed to cope with.

Moving a std wheel 25mm out on a spacer is a huge change in comparison - and as you show, unecessary, assuming free choice of diameter of wheel.
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Matzker

Matzker sells 25mm spacers (at a price....) that is TUV approved. That should indicate that it's a mechanically sound solution? The question in my mind is if it offers any real advantage that justifies the cost and effort, and if there are any downsides?
  
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Personally I would avoid spacers. I had these on my P38 Range Rover and used them to fit the newer type Std Range Rover alloys. Everytime car was Serviced or tyres balanced a spacer was often not replaced leading to a lot of vibrations etc .
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Re: Matzker

opodden wrote:
Matzker sells 25mm spacers (at a price....) that is TUV approved. That should indicate that it's a mechanically sound solution? The question in my mind is if it offers any real advantage that justifies the cost and effort, and if there are any downsides?


Nope, just indicates it is a mechanically sound spacer, the approval will not cover fitting with any and all possible wheel, tyre and vehicle combinations as would TUV approval of a D3 with its manufacturer-supplied wheel and tyre options.

To compare, a TUV-approved towbar does not mean the vehicle is safe irrespective of what is being towed, you can still put a badly loaded, illegal trailer onto a TUV approved towbar.

A spacer by itself won't get more tyre on the road, if you need more rim width in order to get more tyre on the road then far better to get a rim with the correct offset to avoid any clearence/rubbing issues. Simply adding such a spacer without changing the rim does nothing good as far as I can see.

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simonsi wrote:
ronp wrote:
I've been running 295/45's but in 20" for over 40k miles.
not had any steering, bearing issues


But I doubt whether the centreline of your 295 tyres have moved more than a few mm from std - and certainly will be very close to where a std RRS rim would have it - which the suspension/steering geometry is designed to cope with.


Yep Simon, fair point!
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i think devon 4x4 do them cheaper but i might be wrong
  
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