However ... all very insignificant compared to my feelings about the who broke into my Dad's house whilst he was taking my Mum to the day-care centre this morning.
I do so wish he/she/them had still been in the house when I got there.
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24th Jan 2020 10:04 pm
leeds
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Hardware wrote:
and where on earth did they get the jury from for this ...
BBC website wrote:
A van driver who repeatedly struck a police officer with a machete during a routine traffic stop has been found guilty of wounding with intent.
Muhammad Rodwan attacked PC Stuart Outten, 29, after he was pulled over in Leyton, east London, on 7 August.
The officer was badly injured and has yet to return to work.
Rodwan, who has previous convictions for rape and two other machete attacks, was also cleared by the jury of possessing an offensive weapon.
How is having a machete NOT possession of an offensive weapon ????
Hardware, being in possession of a machete in itself is not being in possession of an offensive weapon. A machete in itself is not an offensive weapon as it is not against the law to be in the simple possession of a machete. A machete is not banned as an offensive weapon.
Guess who has been stopped for carrying a machete and guess which police constable got his backside 'kicked' by his superiors.
Threaten or use a machete against a person and it has gone from carrying a tool to being in possession of an offensive weapon
IMO the jury was wrong in this case.
Most of us carry a wheel brace etc in our vehicles, which we carry as a tool. Take that wheel brace out and threaten or strike someone with it and it has crossed the line from being a tool to being an offensive weapon.
In my mind anyone attacking an emergency worker and seriously injuring an emergency worker should be convicted of attempted murder. Striking someone around the head with a machete especially several times is attempted murder in my book
24th Jan 2020 10:44 pm
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Hardware wrote:
However ... all very insignificant compared to my feelings about the who broke into my Dad's house whilst he was taking my Mum to the day-care centre this morning.
I do so wish he/she/them had still been in the house when I got there.
The should be knee-capped.
Be glad your parents weren't there when the broke in. These are quite happy to beat up old folk for a handful of coins. At least your parents are unhurt (albeit I bet still shaken up).Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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24th Jan 2020 10:46 pm
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leeds wrote:
Guess who has been stopped for carrying a machete and guess which police constable got his backside 'kicked' by his superiors.
Were you wandering down the high street brandishing it?
It's not an offence to have such things, of course, but if one is in a public place there has to be good reason for possession. A large knife on your belt when working in a context that requires such a thing is perfectly legal. Take the same knife on your belt in to an urban pub on a Friday night when three-parts drunk and try to explain that you have a reasonable requirement for it in that context.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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24th Jan 2020 10:50 pm
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leeds wrote:
Guess who has been stopped for carrying a machete and guess which police constable got his backside 'kicked' by his superiors.
Were you wandering down the high street brandishing it?
Well it was a few years (sorry decades) ago! New Guinea 75 member had left a Martindale machete in my car. So I carried it back whilst walking to the University of Leeds. Copper stopped me accusing me of carrying a sword and waving this offensive weapon about. This I denied. Now being in 1975 his police radio did not work well so he went into red K9 to speak to his sergeant. So I sat on panda car bonnet whilst he made the phone call. He come out from the K9 and basically told me to off. These were in the days before stab vests, pepper spray, tasers etc! So copper against 2' Martindale would not be a fair fight.
24th Jan 2020 11:16 pm
leeds
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
It's not an offence to have such things, of course, but if one is in a public place there has to be good reason for possession. A large knife on your belt when working in a context that requires such a thing is perfectly legal. Take the same knife on your belt in to an urban pub on a Friday night when three-parts drunk and try to explain that you have a reasonable requirement for it in that context.
I often have a stanley type knife in my work clothes so going/coming away from work in work clothes so perfectly legal. Going clubbing (not that I have done it) with a stanley knife in your pocket and you will be skating on thin ice.
Having a baseball bat, glove, ball in your car on way to baseball practise is perfectly legal. Carry a baseball bat for self protection and that becomes a big NO NO
24th Jan 2020 11:39 pm
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Having work clothes on is not justification you have to have a reasonable purpose. I could be dressed up for shooting walking down the high street but I couldn’t carry a gralloching knife. If you are dressed in work clothes and you are walking from your van to a customers house to lay a carpet that would be justification.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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24th Jan 2020 11:47 pm
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If you were on your way to or from shooting and went via the high street for a legitimate reason and were behaving in a civil manner you’d have no reason to fear carrying a concealed gralloching knife on your person.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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25th Jan 2020 12:40 am
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That’s what I’m getting at it’s not your clothing, you have to be able to evidence why you have it.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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25th Jan 2020 8:52 am
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Hardware wrote:
However ... all very insignificant compared to my feelings about the who broke into my Dad's house whilst he was taking my Mum to the day-care centre this morning.
I do so wish he/she/them had still been in the house when I got there.
I’m sorry this happened. I understand your feelings as this happened to me and I struggle with it and the fact that the scum who did it lives only round the corner
I know what I need to do but that would end up with me being prosecuted worse than them.
I hope you get some justiceIts not the height of the fall but the sudden stop at the bottom that hurts!!
25th Jan 2020 9:16 am
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Hardware wrote:
However ... all very insignificant compared to my feelings about the who broke into my Dad's house whilst he was taking my Mum to the day-care centre this morning.
I do so wish he/she/them had still been in the house when I got there.
The should be knee-capped.
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Sorry RR I disagree about the knee capping.
Now if a certain part of their anatomy were between two bricks being brought together at a rapid pace I would suggest that as an alternative.
My view is that scumbags often breed scumbags so you might slow down the scumbag breeding cycle.
Knee capping and they more likely to claim of the working/tax paying community as they would claim incapacity to work.
My suggested method and you would get the do gooders shouting about right to family life, cruel unusual punishment etc., however does not stop them working.
Now if a certain part of their anatomy were between two bricks being brought together at a rapid pace I would suggest that as an alternative.
Apparently it can be painful …. unless you remember to keep your thumbs on the outsides.
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being in possession of a machete in itself is not being in possession of an offensive weapon. A machete in itself is not an offensive weapon as it is not against the law to be in the simple possession of a machete. A machete is not banned as an offensive weapon.
I totally get the argument of carrying appropriate tools for a given situation/trade ... but it would be hard to argue the case that this machete was in any way a necessary tool for the to be carrying.
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