Rencolyn
Member Since: 26 Feb 2008
Location: Knysna
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Has anyone tried this system on a D3 to save fuel?
http://www.water4petrol.net/
Some extraordinary fuel figures have been reported, 20-70% savings, depending on the vehicle. This is available in Knysna so it may be a good excuse to visit our paradise! Ren Colyn
TDV6 HSE
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 2nd Apr 2008 4:06 am |
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robharvey
Member Since: 14 May 2007
Location: Durban
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Ren,
You can let your half million rand baby be the guinea-pig 
But it sure as f  k ain't gonna be me.
Rob
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| 2nd Apr 2008 5:25 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Hmmm - snake oil anyone 
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| 2nd Apr 2008 6:55 am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
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In the late 70s my brother had a water injection
system fitted to his V8 petrol torana, seemed to improve his fuel economy.
Not sure id want to be the one to test it on a diesel Pete
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| 2nd Apr 2008 7:34 am |
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Rencolyn
Member Since: 26 Feb 2008
Location: Knysna
Posts: 212
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Basically, the system consists of a mixture of bicarb of soda in distilled water which, when a current is passed through a stainless steel mesh, it produces hydrogen. This is fed into the air intake system. Diesel installation is the easiest & can be removed at any time.
A building contractor in Knysna is having his entire fleet of diesel trucks & cars (14) done right now. Will wait to hear the results. Ren Colyn
TDV6 HSE
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| 2nd Apr 2008 6:04 pm |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
Posts: 1605
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Let us know what the results are Pete
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| 2nd Apr 2008 8:24 pm |
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PSC
Member Since: 01 May 2006
Location: Johannesburg
Posts: 255
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Sounds better than perpetual energy !
You will need more energy than it will make
eg (this is just a simplistic example to explain why it can't work)
10 Units electrical energy (from car alternator) -> electrolysis 70% efficient 7 Units (HHO) -> Engine (27% efficient) ~ 2 Units -> Alternator 87% efficient ....
basically you will have to add (via fuel) 8 Units of energy to get the same results as you currently get.
The effeciency of making hydrogen is also somewhat optimistic in the above example
Cheaper to drive with the handbrake on (if it worked  ), than to try this rubbish
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| 3rd Apr 2008 7:51 am |
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Rob Bruce
Member Since: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
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Ummmmm. Think about this from a diferent point of view  It may work in the same way as LPG suplement into diesel which acts as a catalist to increase the efficincy of the burn rate
So hydrogen may do the same thing as LPG 
This if so would be much simpler than LPG 
Rob
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| 8th Apr 2008 12:34 pm |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Hi Ren
I checked this out a while back, and it does look a bit like snake oil. I decided not to bother, seeing as i had already acheived some fuel efficiency gains with the tune, plus the installation was pretty messy from what I could see in the pics. Now that there is a local guy, maybe it's worth another look
Please keep us posted - it will be interesting
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| 9th Apr 2008 3:35 am |
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Duncster
Member Since: 25 Nov 2006
Location: Midlands
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I just love this Banter
I remember my Dad using some kind of water injection system to improve performance and economy at least 30 years ago and that was when petrol was cheap and that was on a RS mexico that ended up in flames.
My view is "and its my view only" if there were fuel adiditives that gave you much better fuel economy, surely the petro chemical companies would be using them to there advantage. And if there were ways with Magnets, Water, CIder (my favorite) that would help, wouldnt our green car manufacturers incorporate them
My view its the placebo effect.
shoot me down 15 3.0 RRS HSE - Silver
05 2.7TDV6 S AUTO Silver - Retro-fitted Leather.
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| 9th Apr 2008 11:31 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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BANG 
Oil companies wont use anything that will dramatically improve fuel efficiency... they loose money. The government would hate it too... they loose money.
Essentially if anything does exist it will be drip fed at a level to maintain tax and duty and profit income.
If there's a magic bullet, then the magicians assistant has hidden it. Maybe Debbie Maggie has it
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| 9th Apr 2008 11:45 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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Funny, this thread seems shorter, yet strangely more informative  I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 10th Apr 2008 8:54 am |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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I agree with you NoDo$h BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 10th Apr 2008 9:52 am |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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I remember a scottish regional news slot many years ago.
Some chap had invented/discovered something similar.
On the programme, the AA were overseeing what he was doing [in his single wooden garage], but they were not privy to his 'gadget'.
We saw him widen the gap on the sparkplugs and pour water into the fuel system.
He fired up the car and he and the AA went for a spin.
I believe he had interest from an oil company.
Enough said ... they probably bought the technollogy for a pittance and promptly shelved it.
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| 10th Apr 2008 10:21 am |
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catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
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NoDo$h wrote:Funny, this thread seems shorter, yet strangely more informative
your posts were relocated
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| 10th Apr 2008 12:15 pm |
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