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Warranty Wise LR Discovery 4
Hi all,
After searching through this forum iff'ing and r'ing where to post this, or if to post it as a follow on from a previous warranty post, I decided to start a fresh thread. "Tin hat on!"
I've enquired about the possible purchase of a used Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE MY2012 (62) with 56K miles on the clock with full service history (as advertised). At this point I'm not sure if this is full Main Dealer history or Specialist/Independent service history. If the latter I shall just walk away. This I need to confirm with my local car supermarket, I'm popping down on Saturday to view the vehicle. Ideally buying from an approved LR Dealership would be good, however there isn't many on there at the minute and the ones that are, are too expensive for my budget and seem higher mileage. This said, I do keep looking daily on Land Rover UK approved used. As I understand it, you get more support and better protection from LR UK if a crank fails after you've purchased from them guys.
I have had a Land Rover Discovery 3 before and other than air suspension and electronic hand brake issues its been pretty faultless.
With the cancer of these vehicles being apparent re: the crankshaft issues on the TDV6 and also the SDV6 on both the Discovery 3 and 4's I am wary of purchasing another one, however the drive, the luxury of them and the go anywhere feeling, I feel a newer Discovery 4 would be good. I know! I know! I must be mad. I just love these cars.
I still can't get my head around the fact that in our great country and in particular the Black Country near me which is full of good old skool engineering people and garages, that a failed (snapped) crank can't be sourced and the engine meticulous re-built. What I've researched is that to avoid various engine rebuild companies you can find after a thorough Google search. Once the crank has given up, the general consensus on here is that it's, game over. I've also researched that even newer 2015/2016 year vehicles are failing too, this can't be still happening surely? I've read too that even later 2016 (66) vehicles that this is happening to where the genuine warranty from LR covers a new engine to be sourced, however the crankshaft in the new sourced engine will also potentially suffer the same fault as the design hasn't been corrected. Is this right? Time bomb springs to mind! Surely newer vehicles have had this fault remedied?
With all this said, I enquired to Warranty Wise who my family have used and rave about for different cars in the family, to ask for a price to cover this potential crankshaft failure in possibly the vehicle i've seen. This quote is coming out at £66.09 a month or £2,300.02 for 36 months and apparently it does cover engine/crank issues. My only issue with this is that it states "single repair limit" of £5k! If the worse was to happen and a new or even second hand engine was needed does this mean I only have a repair budget of £5k and surely an engine would cost potentially x3 this?
Thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
I wouldn't touch WarrantyWise with someone else's money
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28th Oct 2021 8:52 pm
Dazvanman
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Many thanks. Will have a good read through that now.
I can't understand why you would walk away if it did not have full LR dealer service history. Most specialist independents do far better work than an LR dealership. For me I would be very wary of a full dealership service history as you can almost guarantee that they have skipped over some of the service items.
I took my LR to a dealership for a service, as I wanted to keep the dealer service history, and was informed that the power steering was leaking and it needed a new pas pump. I took it to my mate who is a qualified mechanic and asked him to check it over. He simply tightened one of the pipe joints and the leak was fixed. He told me it was a common trick to loosen a pipe and then charge for a new pas pump without actually fitting one. He also checked the air filter which was supposed to have been replaced but hadn't which made me wonder what other items I had been charged for but weren't actually done. I never took it to a dealer again.2013 RR Vogue SE SDV8
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29th Oct 2021 7:31 am
Dazvanman
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Really!? Wow! That’s shocking. After researching and reading loads and loads of useful stuff on here I learnt that if you’re buying a used vehicle then a full main dealer service history would be better. I stand to be corrected then. As long as it’s a full history with no intervals missed then I’d look into it.
Would I find on here somewhere, exactly what service intervals (years or miles) the stamps need to be in the book and what on the vehicle needed servicing at that point? So when I do go in the morning I can check the stamps if any?
Thats some good info there and a good read later tonight over a beer. Appreciated.
29th Oct 2021 10:45 am
Green Land Rover
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Vera & Christian's channel is worth a look for anyone who owns a D3 or D4.
This video is especially relevant ass they strip out an engine that was saved just before the crank snapped.
Next week's video is them re-machining the block & re-assembly.Discovery 4 HSE - Aintree Green
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First thing I did when buying my last D4 2015 HSE with full LR dealer history was to take it to my local indie and have them check it out and sort out the items that had been missed on the services (like handbrake adjustment! as dealers will only advise fitting new items and not adjusting things !)...
The ONLY time, IMHO, when a full JLR history matters is if selling it back them why pay £650 for a service when it will be done better at an indie for £250 ?I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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29th Oct 2021 4:18 pm
Dazvanman
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Brilliant video, literally just watched all 48mins of it. I’ve come across their vids before on YouTube about a Disco 4. Thanks for sharing.
29th Oct 2021 4:54 pm
Dazvanman
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nigethecat wrote:
First thing I did when buying my last D4 2015 HSE with full LR dealer history was to take it to my local indie and have them check it out and sort out the items that had been missed on the services (like handbrake adjustment! as dealers will only advise fitting new items and not adjusting things !)...
The ONLY time, IMHO, when a full JLR history matters is if selling it back them why pay £650 for a service when it will be done better at an indie for £250 ?
When you put it like that, it makes perfect sense. And the truth is I’d probably never sell it back to them as I’d just run it into the ground.
29th Oct 2021 4:55 pm
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I had a warrantywise warranty on my D3 and paid to replace my engine…………Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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29th Oct 2021 5:26 pm
Dazvanman
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They paid out? My only concern with a Warranty Wise product, or at least the one they quoted me on has limit of only £5k! Surely an engine for your D3 was more than this? Also when they paid out for your new replacement engine was the engine a second hand lump?
Cheers for the reply.
29th Oct 2021 5:32 pm
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No, I paid for an engineJoined the BMWX5 45e group
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why pay £650 for a service when it will be done better at an indie for £250 ?
