“This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.”
It's like something out of 1984!!!
Discuss!
10th Jan 2010 3:42 pm
countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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I'll use that on my tax return, I'll just take the lower income months and base everything on that. Seems like it an accepted way to do calculations.
10th Jan 2010 3:46 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15214
Re: Warmest winter on record, more Met Office Balldocks!!
Yep and compare that with the more accurate prediction from first post in this thread.
The Met are the "professionals", the other accurate one was from an amatuer in his spare time I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
10th Jan 2010 3:49 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72788
CW, that gets from SWMBO and she's an accountant!!!
Met Office, does this look like the warmest winter on record???
Well so far this winter has been warmer than last years when it got down to -28c here in Belgium. We were in Scotland the week before xmas and the temps recorded by the car as we drove back to catch the ferry reached a low of -17c as we got into Perth.
We have som snow here but not a lot even tho the temps havnt been above freezing since before we left for Scotland.
10th Jan 2010 4:00 pm
chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 3145
"WOW"
Just read the Whole article...........
Thats pretty unbelievable ! Surely the Met Office are going to have to have a major re-think on that statement and in reading that there was reference to the Headlines from a decade ago which did declare
"IN ANOTHER 10 YEARS OUR CHILDREN WILL NOT KNOW WHAT SNOW IS"
Try telling that to my 5 year old ! who has an igloo in the back garden !
10th Jan 2010 4:08 pm
dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1112
Winter begins on the solstice (21/22 December) and lasts to the first equinox (March 21/22nd). Others measure winter from the start of December to the end of February. So how can November make this the warmest winter ? They should be fired immediately, a MET office that does even know what season it is !!!!!There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
10th Jan 2010 10:44 pm
UNG
Member Since: 20 Jun 2008
Location: Lancs
Posts: 753
It just shows the lengths this government will go to so the statistics meet there requirements of the climate change groups"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
11th Jan 2010 8:12 am
stapldm
Member Since: 11 Sep 2006
Location: Swine Town
Posts: 2330
Hold on; the calculation is biased towards finding warmth, in that it only allows the 'warmest' data into the calculation.
Using exactly the same model but searching for the coldest will give us the coldest winter on record at the same time.
You couldn't make it up...Dr. Ian Malcolm:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Transgenic tomato anyone?
If that is the slap dash method of proving global warming god help us all. Is it no wonder these idiots bring nothing but disrepute on themselves. We may not be as intelligent as many of them but we do have the same number of votes. This is just another issue that our government have to deal with but they need the people behind them or it"will" bring them down. Show us the unquestionable truth, which they must have seen, show us the hard facts that prove that if we take all these proposed measures and bankrupt our selves that those measures from this tiny little island will make a difference?
Too many of us are not convinced on a number of points but we are still being pushed into this blind stampede. Of course our government, our scientists and the greenies are always right about everything. That's the one consistent fact through all of this...they have all been wrong on one point or another......They have bred their own distrust and it will come back to haunt them..with a bit of luck.
Trev.
11th Jan 2010 11:21 am
mzplcg
Member Since: 23 Jun 2009
Location: Gone
Posts: 1087
The simplest answer would be to release all the data to several independent organisations, hell why not make it fully public??
The trouble with that is the findings might not fit with all the green taxes and other garbage around it. I still fail to see how taxing something makes it pollute less but that's another discussion.
Taking ALL the data and comparing it year on year, taking various averages and using data from a lot more points of reference would produce something which I suspect paints a rather different picture from the one we are supposed to believe.
As we all know, simply taking high or low points and then averaging them out can produce wildly inaccurate results. It only has to be unusually warm on one day for the whole average to be thrown out of whack. Same thing with the lows. These studies, if they are to be believed, MUST contain every possible piece of data collected to minimise scope for errors. This is the same for every scientific study not just weather and temperature patterns.
Until such time as we get some truly independent, verifiable and cohesive evidence from at least 3 separate organisations then their BS theories are exactly that. Theory, not proven and mostly BS from what I can tell.
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