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BCP
 


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Tyres and rotation

I've taken my Cooper STs off with the holiday season approaching. Put my Pirelli 18s back on and rotated them front to back and O/S to N/S. Then read in the manual not to rotate tyres. Any ideas why? Was trying to even out the inner edge wear (rear) and outer edge wear (front).

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Post #6629725th Jun 2006 4:13 pm
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Hmm, no responses. Looks like it's OK to leave them on then.

BP
  
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I too was wondering why you shouldn't rotate the tyres.
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BCP,

I have previously asked my dealer whether I should swap wheels around as you described. He said not to, principally on the grounds that it would significantly increase road noise. Evidently the tyres become 'stepped' in the wear that occurs on the tread. And I can see what he means; each block within the tread has worn so that if you run your hand over the pattern one way there's a definite stepped effect - smooth one way and rough the other.

Whether there are other reasons than just road noise (eg. transmission stress) for not swapping I don't know, and leave it to better informed members to offer advice!

MJD
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Post #6677827th Jun 2006 9:37 pm
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I'll be putting my 17" off-road wheels on for one day once a month. Everytime I put the 19" wheels back on, they go on in any order. Maybe I should mark them so I put them back on correctly in the future.
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same here, maybe the rotation will stop the castellation? Confused mine seem smooth enough, generally changed twice or three times a month
  
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well if its just down to tyre rotation direction, that shouldnt stop you moving them front to back on the same side, so that you even the wear up between front and rears, just dont swop sides.

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Okay guys. After a quick Google on "tyre rotation" I came up with this from Bridgestone. They should know the best method of rotation for maximising tyre life.

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/produc...tation.asp

For 4WD's with permanant 4WD use 4 tyre cross rotation which means front to back from opposing sides.

This is exactly what I'm doing and I even saw my Dealer do this on my D3 at a service.

Chris
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Post #6689628th Jun 2006 11:41 am
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I would always rotate tyres especially on a 4x4. On my Grand Cherokee the previous owner didn't rotate and I ended up buying 4 new tyres because the two on the rear were very worn. If you rotate you get a lot longer life out of a set of tyres.

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MJD3
 


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Evil or Very Mad Grrrr. And I thought my dealer was well informed!
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Ken
  


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Never have never will all I do is when the tyres are replaced I put the wheels with the most weights on on the rear

Also I generally replace at about 4mm on road tyres
  
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BCP
 


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Many thanks for all your advice. Looks like I'm OK and no need for another hour with the LR jack!

BP
  
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Rank up LR Customer Care for a definitive answer and they said to contact the dealer. Spoke to the local LR dealer today and they said no problems with rotating the tyres.

Contacted the local Goodyear dealer (type of tyres on vehicle) and he stated to definately rotate the tyres for even wear and longer life.

Well --- onto the jack today.
  
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By Rotate tyres, do you mean front to back on the same side? Confused

I was told by my father (once a tyre specialist) never to rotate the tyres left to right, as the belts inside the tyre move in the direction they head most. Rotating them left to right causes some of the belts to move back, then the tires to become out of round. This is in addition to the treadwear characteristics.

I hope this helps. Very Happy

Let me know if you've heard anything to the contrary.
 Dave

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RetiredBob
 


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Dave

Agree with what your father told you. I was told the same many years ago. Thumbs Up

As I understand it, with the modern tyres, the inside belts do not move. Confused

Would like to know what is correct as I have just moved wheels diagonally. Crying or Very sad

Regards
Chawton White
  
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