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Speedex750
Member Since: 12 Jan 2013
Location: North East England (usually)
Posts: 2
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| TDV6 clutch slip - is a upgrade/heavy duty clutch available? |
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Uncharted territory for me, I'm usually in a P38 forum (and had lots of good advice there) but I'm trying to help a work colleague with a recurringly slippy Disco3.
There's loads of info on sites, including this one, about slippy D3 clutches and resetting the XYZ sensor but the threads seem to major on arguing with dealers and LR, getting clutches renewed under warranty. One definition of madness is to repeat the same activity and expect a different outcome - like renewing a clutch with the same parts and expecting it to last a lot longer than its predecesor.
We can't find anyone who offers an uprated clutch to totally avoid the problem.
Is there a heavy duty clutch for the 2.7 manual diesel TDV6 Disco3 that solves this problem??? 
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 12th Jan 2013 6:10 pm |
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bigdave
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Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: Cornwall
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Hi and Welcome,
Our parts guru TLO (The Large One) on here dud a group buy a while back and I'm sure he did a deal on a heavy duty clutch.
Search for him and drop him a pm.
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| 12th Jan 2013 6:17 pm |
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pinhead
Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 877
 
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yes landrover do a heavy duty clutch that increases clamping pressure and it is cheaper than a standard one
it has an increased pedal effort of roughly 15%
unfortunatly it does absolutly nothing to cure the problem as it is all caused by poor driving style
unlike previos landrovers the disco 3 is 2.7 tons before you and your passengers or luggage get in and before you put a upto 3.5 tons on the back it also makes more torque than any other manual before
you just cannot get away with reving the nuts off it and slipping the clutch to move off where other landrovers will bog tdv6 wont and where the lighter landrovers will start to move eisier these wont
in short on steep hills off road or on and espesially when towing and manouvering you must use low range and low revs to get moving or you will damage the clutch and fly wheel
the reason the high clamp load kit does no good is that once your foot is fully off the clutch the clamp force of the standard clutch is well up to the job of even a remaped tdv6
my clutch lasted 137k miles and had had 2 previos owners including lady drivers so they can last fine if driven correctly
so if you are having problems learn how to drive or get an auto (bit harsh maybe but true) Club original turbo
161k and counting
general AT's, oval timer, blanked egr's, silicone intercooler hose's
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| 12th Jan 2013 6:36 pm |
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Discoed
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1020
 
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pinhead wrote:
in short on steep hills off road or on and espesially when towing and manouvering you must use low range and low revs to get moving or you will damage the clutch and fly wheel
the reason the high clamp load kit does no good is that once your foot is fully off the clutch the clamp force of the standard clutch is well up to the job of even a remaped tdv6
It has worked for me - I had this advice from an ex LR mechanic
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| 12th Jan 2013 6:44 pm |
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Garym2000
Member Since: 17 Apr 2012
Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
Posts: 1398
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I've just had the heavy clutch fitted after numerous xy sensor problems. Slipping clutch was not really noticeable but apparently it was worn.
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| 12th Jan 2013 6:47 pm |
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pinhead
Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 877
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your car has had a history of clutches befor you took it on though so i assume the previos owner was bad on clutches
sorry if i have mistaken you for another forum member Club original turbo
161k and counting
general AT's, oval timer, blanked egr's, silicone intercooler hose's
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| 12th Jan 2013 6:49 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Thought the manual car had an anti-stall system fitted
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| 12th Jan 2013 8:43 pm |
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Discoed
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1020
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B16 KJR wrote:Thought the manual car had an anti-stall system fitted
no anti stall - others have said the same but its not the case
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| 12th Jan 2013 8:45 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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I knew I had heard about it somewhere
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| 12th Jan 2013 8:48 pm |
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Garym2000
Member Since: 17 Apr 2012
Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
Posts: 1398
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pinhead wrote:your car has had a history of clutches befor you took it on though so i assume the previos owner was bad on clutches
sorry if i have mistaken you for another forum member
Hi yes your right it had had 2 new clutches previously and has only done 60k miles. First two clutches fitted were not the heavy clutch and I can only presume previous owner used to sit with her/his* foot on the clutch continually. Hopefully this will sort it once and for all.
*delete as most appropriate.
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| 12th Jan 2013 10:08 pm |
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Speedex750
Member Since: 12 Jan 2013
Location: North East England (usually)
Posts: 2
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Thannks to all for their contribution to this thread. Just to conclude and sum up.
As you are probably aware the manual 2.7TDV6 clutch has a reputation for slipping.
Being very careful not to ride the clutch pedal and use of low range for slow manouvring especially if towing are good ideas to preserve the friction lining.
The XYZ sensor can be simply reset to clear fault codes generated by slippage as described elsewhere on this forum.
The phenomenum is well described in a LR Technical Bulletin LTB00475v3 where a heavy duty clutch is suggested as a viable alternative albeit with pedal pressure increased by 15% from the greater clamping pressure.
The LR part number for the uprated clutch is URF500060. If you're having a clutch change make sure you know what is being installed, you should have more confidence in standard genuine LR parts LR005809 than (cheaper?) unknown branded parts. The uprated LR clutch URF500060 should provide more resiliance against slipping.
The Large One (Nick) parts guru on this forum can supply the uprated clutch.
I hope of use for those to come with slippy problems.
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