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This may Shock You
I have just learnt today that a guy placed 22" wheels on his Range Rover Vogue, which was about 2 months old. The suspension leg (Delphi) air bag became defective and LR refused to supply the new leg and air kit under warranty because the tyre on the wheel was too hard and was instrumental in causing damage to the suspension.
Now, what have I said about the wrong wheels guys!
I cannot confirm the details, as it is hearsay, but the source was more than reliable.
This is very much in line with the seat problem I have. Only I have been to LR and they are authorising the mods, so my warranty is safe. Don't put anything on that could give them an excuse. We are not dealing with the old faithfull Land Rover, but Ford, litigation, litigation and denial all the way.
Be warned please.
2nd Aug 2005 4:41 pm
PIP
Member Since: 19 Jul 2005
Location: Tetbury, Glos.
Posts: 135
Oh please, please stop. My new found confidence is starting to disappear again. I'm a coward at heart.
2nd Aug 2005 5:04 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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PIP,
The message is simple...
1). it was a RR....
2). don't 'bling it up' - whatever that means
Everything else, the warranty god will sort
Cheers,
10forcash
'Keep the faith' (in a Bon Jovi sort of way...)
2nd Aug 2005 5:07 pm
PIP
Member Since: 19 Jul 2005
Location: Tetbury, Glos.
Posts: 135
Sorry, it's just me.
The dogs can smell blood
2nd Aug 2005 5:18 pm
10forcash
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Hopefully the accountants......
2nd Aug 2005 5:20 pm
BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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PIP wrote:
Oh please, please stop. My new found confidence is starting to disappear again. I'm a coward at heart.
PIP, it should not concern anyone who uses the vehicle for what it was made. Putting these wheels on takes it out of its design perameters, hence the decision by LR.
2nd Aug 2005 5:26 pm
ducati
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Ohio, USA
Posts: 180
This has been happening for years in North America. I was actually told by a service advisor that my "oversized tires" caused my rear wiper to fall off my (then) 8 month old Disco II.
I subsequently convinced him of the idiocy of the statement... But the writing is on the wall.'05 LR3 HSE
Departed: '62 Series IIA, '02 Freelander, '03 Disco
2nd Aug 2005 5:38 pm
PIP
Member Since: 19 Jul 2005
Location: Tetbury, Glos.
Posts: 135
O.K I promise not to put any fluffy dice on the rear view and the tigers tail stays in the cellar.
2nd Aug 2005 5:39 pm
BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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Now you get the idea, go and get a D3 NOW PIP. If you want a good dealer (no where near you I'm afraid), I can give you her number.
2nd Aug 2005 5:44 pm
PIP
Member Since: 19 Jul 2005
Location: Tetbury, Glos.
Posts: 135
Well today I should have received 2 calls or e.mails from our local dealers but alas they do not want my money( unlike the accountant).
You name a dealer and it's have wheels will travel ,just bear in mind they don't float in a force 10.
2nd Aug 2005 5:51 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
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PIP: Chill out, get the cheque book out and go and buy one.
Brian: No I am not shocked at all. What I find truly amazing is that people completely ignore some of the very important information that is provided to them with a new car; not least, the instruction manual......
More importantly, the warranty information is clearly stated, and excludes cover where:
• Alterations of the vehicle from Land Rovers original specification
For the avoidance of any doubt, and in case anyone is thinking of doing a spot of blinging, note the following:
Land Rover is not responsible for any repair or replacement that is required as a direct result of:
• Normal wear and tear
• Failure to properly maintain the vehicle in accordance with Land Rovers
maintenance schedules and service instructions
• Refilling or topping-up with incorrect fuel e.g. petrol used instead of diesel
• Use of bio-diesel or bio-ethanol alternative fuels in concentrations that exceed 5%
• Failure to use Land Rover specified parts or fluids (or parts of equivalent quality)
• Damage resulting from neglect, accident, or improper use
• Unauthorised modifications of the vehicle or parts (modifications outside of Land Rover specifications)
• Defects caused as a result of the vehicle being used in motorsport events or for any other purpose than normal, private or commercial use
2nd Aug 2005 5:56 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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PIP wrote:
O.K I promise not to put any fluffy dice on the rear view and the tigers tail stays in the cellar.
PIP, even Boeing allow furry dice.....
Cheers,
10forcash
2nd Aug 2005 6:04 pm
BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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This is exactly what I have been saying about certain tyres and wheels for ages. Don't do it, unless it is within the spec. or authorised by LR.
Some 22" tyres have a 106 rating, which means they can carry 950kg and the rear axle weight of the D3 is 1875kg. The 950x2 = 1900kg, leaving a margin of 25kg ONE DIY BAG OF CEMENT dodgy
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