Guys, I may be stating the obvious but is there a physical reason why when balancing a tyre, the weights are placed on the outside of the wheel rather than out of sight on the inside?
Just had a tyre changed today and when I picked it up the fitter has about six inches of weight all round the visible side . Cobbled on too rather than sticky on types
14th Jan 2012 5:59 pm
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And the annoying thing is, that when they are hammered on it damages the laquer coating of the wheel.
14th Jan 2012 6:20 pm
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Doesn't the balancing have to be on both sides of the wheel, with it just a bonus if the outside needs no weights? My balancing weights have usually been on both sides.
14th Jan 2012 6:38 pm
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14th Jan 2012 6:42 pm
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Re: One for the tyre fitters
Da1sycat wrote:
has about six inches of weight
The last tyre place who tried to sell me a tyre which needed that much balancing were politely asked to fit a different tyre.
Stick on weights only for me, and not too many of them either. Having said that, the premium brands tend to need less balancing weights than the budget ones.
Any decent fitter would re-seat the tyre and take advantage of the unbalancing effect of the valve too in such extreme cases Altox GSM FBH controller thread
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15th Jan 2012 9:07 am
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beanie wrote:
Amy decent fitter would re-seat the tyre and take advantage of the unbalancing effect of the valve too in such extreme cases
There is an indexing mark on new tyres to show where the valve should be mounted, but most shops I've seen that don't have a clue about doing tyres properly (sounds like the one Daisycat used) ignore this.PAGODA
15th Jan 2012 9:28 am
Stuarts the man
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I never ever hammer weights on outside of alloy,unless the alloy is totally f always stickys on the inside and does not cause any probs. obviously you got someone who did not give a damn
15th Jan 2012 10:01 am
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There should be a yellow dot or circle, the manufacturer puts this on t indicate the lightest part of tyre, this is supposed to go near the valve, this will allow less weight required on the balance. (this was what i was informed on my motorcycle tyres)
Its very rare i ever see car tyres fitted this way,If it ain't broke... Take it apart anyway, how else you gonna find out how it works
15th Jan 2012 10:24 am
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Actually Clip on weights is superior to adhesive weights as the idea of balancing a wheel tyre combo is to use the least weight possible so as clip on’s are out at the furthest point possible on a wheel naturally this is better option although for some not the most aesthetically pleasing. There are two part weights that reduce the possible application / removal damage to the rim although some rims only allow for inner clip on’s then there are of course Rims that only allow for adhesive weights
Tyre reference marks mark either a low or in some cases the high spot generally the high spot is on a rim is where the valve is but not always the case the only real way is to spin a naked rim up and work it out from there this is massively time consuming so most shops will just apply weights to the first spin as customers won’t pay for the accrued time to do it to plan.
16th Jan 2012 3:05 pm
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Hello slap head, been in hiding
Getting fewer rims that will take clip's, if it's had Clip's on B4 we would fit clip's again unless the customer request's stickies, stickies will fail quicker than a clip on weight.
16th Jan 2012 3:58 pm
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AJS4X4 wrote:
Getting fewer rims that will take clip's, if it's had Clip's on B4 we would fit clip's again unless the customer request's stickies, stickies will fail quicker than a clip on weight.
Andy... Does this not help you guys and mean more business?If it ain't broke... Take it apart anyway, how else you gonna find out how it works
16th Jan 2012 4:00 pm
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Sorry not quite sure I understand your point, stickies cost more money than clip's. Also means more work and time to clean the inside of the alloys to make them stick.
You will do more re-balance with stickies than clip's, but we have very few of them.
What we do need is a better choice of tyre to suit all these silly new wheels etc.
We keep a massive stock of all sizes and are not often caught out.
16th Jan 2012 4:16 pm
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. Cobbled on too rather than sticky on types
always stickys on the inside and does not cause any probs. obviously you got someone who did not give a damn
still got the Defender though 
