Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
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Water, air leaks and EGR blank......
Hi all
I have just got in the car to drive home from work to have water run onto my feet, dreaded sunroof drains......
Instead of going home I decided to have a go at it, I tried in the past to remove the air inlet cover and haven't had much luck, however I gave it a bit more welly and off it came, hoverer breaking one of the clips, it now won't pop back in, I think it's a new part from TLO.......
However I didn't have time to do the other side, my questions are:-
What is the process? Is there a guide in here for doing it?
Is it wheel off, wheel lining out? Reach up and find the valve, cut end off, and re-build? Is there anything I need to know doing this job?
Also I ordered a blanking kit from BAS and a silicone hose kit, whilst messing around with the drain I ran the engine and revved it I noticed air coming out of a split in the top of the hose, so it looks like I will be fitting the new hose at the weekend, the top end looks easy enough to get to, what about the bottom? Can you take a panel/cover off underneath to get to the bottom end hose clip? Any advise would help.......
I think I will do the blanking kit too, I have read the instructions for this too, I think this is fairly straight forward the only bit that looks a bit difficult is taking the butterfly out of the valve? Is there any advise for this?
Thanks for any help you can offer, this forum is great.......
1st Dec 2011 8:52 pm
Wiggy Man
Member Since: 14 Nov 2010
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 158
I blanked my EGR with the BAS kit and it's pretty straight forward as the instructions are good, it was the first job i did on my Disco and enjoyed doing it.
I have also replaced the intercooler hose, the top clip is easy and the bottom...there is a black plastic panel at the bottom right of the driver side wheel arch. from memory it has three black plastic push in clips holding it on. They are the same type that holds the wheel arch liner in place, you prise out the middle bit and then the rest comes out. You can then get to the bottom clip.
It's 4 clips that hold the lower cover on - they hold just about every part of the car on!
And they break - P/N is ANR 2224 and there are 5 in a pack - only a few quid from the Dealer.Mark.
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When I blanked my egr's off I could not get the butterfly valve shaft to come out, I was bending the housing so I left it in place and just locked the valve fully open with a self tapping screew in the right place, its been fine ever since. Just don't rush it and you will be fine.
Flack
2nd Dec 2011 1:59 am
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Thanks for all your comments, the bit I am not looking forward to is the butterfly valve in the EGR job, and the risk of the studs sheering, will take this easy……
2nd Dec 2011 1:20 pm
Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
Location: Here and there
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Just take your time and allow yourself time so you don't rush
My bolts for the egr came out ok , a little rusty , so wire brushed them and put some copper slip on the threads.
You could always get 4 x bolts and gasket to be on the safe side
Like Flack , my spindle would not come out and with fear of breaking something I just jammed open the flap with a small self tapper , it's held in place since
Good luck.
2nd Dec 2011 10:45 pm
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Well things were a bit slow at work today, so decided I would sort things out on the disco, sorted the silicone air inlet, perfect, thanks Peter easy, also took the passengers wheel lining out (quite a bit more involved but not difficult) and started to sort out the sunroof drain on this side.
When a customer who bounced several cheques at me 4 years ago for an account which hadn't been settled for 100 notes turned up, I kept quiet while he instructed my staff what he would like.....
I popped up from behind the wheel arch and said to him, Mr. .....?(I remembered his name) We would be more than happy to sort out this job, but would appreciate payment for the last one you didn't settle..... He was some what taken back 4 years on...... Any way he went off and got the 100 notes + the 60 that was needed for the current materials (cash only).
Shame he walked in whilst I was sorting out the disco, (face seen, owes me money, never forgotten).....
Anyhow didn't get as far as the EGR valves another job for the weekend, disco seems much more responsive with the new silicone air inlet, I look forward to the EGR mod and the improvements.
3rd Dec 2011 12:48 am
husseintdv6
Member Since: 12 Sep 2011
Location: Dar Es Salaam
Posts: 26
Hi, getting the butterfly out is much easier when you tap the spindle gently from within the front opening. I did my blanking about 2 weeks ago and struggled getting it out the BAS way so I decided to tap the spindle slightly. Ow and do apply some WD40 at the butterfly and spindle joint.
5th Dec 2011 5:12 pm
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Thanks for all your help, fitted the blanks and removed the butterfly OK, it is certainly a fiddley job, well removing the pipes on either side and fitting the blanks... The trouble is the size of my hands, it's was all a bit of a squeeze, not helped by dropping the gasket down the side of the engine.....
I also managed to break the plastic clip at the back of the y pipe, is this an issue?
When I took the butterfly out and the stub pipes out of the y pipe I noticed a load of black soot/cr@p some of it loose and I managed to get as much of the loose bits out as I could but there seemed a load still in there, should I worry about this? Also there seemed a sensor in the y pipe, I think I have seen this mentioned as a sensor that has been cleaned in some other posts, should I clean this too, or just order a replacement?
Thanks again to this wonderful site an the helpers here.
11th Dec 2011 7:12 pm
Robbie
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Clean as best you can but don't over worry. The MAP sensor can be wiped clean but don't start poking things down the hole as the membrane inside is very delicate and the sensor costs over £200!Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Location: Jersey
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Hi Robbie
Thanks for that, I wondered if this was the MAP sensor, what does this sensor do? I won't be poking anything up it..... Should I put the fault code reader on her and see if there is anything I should be looking at?
Thanks for your help
11th Dec 2011 7:41 pm
Robbie
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It a pressure sensor which influences a bunch of engine systems so can be a real pain if it goes wrong. If you have no issues just put it all back together and turn the key (although it may be a little rough and slow to start with disturbed crud) as all should be ok.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Hi Robbie
Thanks for that, I have put it back together and it ran fine, didn't sound rough at all, in fact it seemed to pull off from cold better than ever? I will leave it all alone, or order a new sensor and clean the y out a bit before fitting the new sensor.
I am planning to take the car for a decent run in France shortly and would like to sort any issues out before I go.
Thanks again for your help
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11th Dec 2011 9:05 pm
Robbie
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Don't buy a sensor unless it has failed as they are not exactly cheap!Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
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Hi Robbie
Thanks for that, reading some of the other posts I wondered if there was any advantage in cleaning or replacing it?
I could spray to "wash it" out with WD40 or something similar? Or am I better leaving as it is?
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