scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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Hi All,
Just wondering if someone can offer me some advice.
Last week I sent my 2006 D3 to my local garage for a brake service following the brake warning light appearing on my dash.
As I am not a mechanic and I didn't know the condition of the brakes, I decided it would be a good idea to have all discs and pads replaced so that I knew where I was.
It gave me great pleasure when the garage rang me to say that there was no need to replace the rear disc and it would only need new discs on the front and new pads all round.
Hear is the bad bit.....
I have just driven the car properly for the first time since the work was carried out.
After 5 mins driving at 30mph the car began to vibrate a little so I pulled over. I couldn't see anything obviously wrong but there was a slight burning smell (like brake pad smell).
Deciding to take the risk I drove on and once I got up to 50mph the vibration became quite violent and as I slowed down to pull into a lay by it felt as if my wheels were egg shaped. The car was actually moving up and down as if you were driving over bumps.
When I stopped there was smoke coming from the rear drivers side wheel. I let it cool down and then cruised home using the gears to slow me down (no issues when using the gears to brake).
Has anyone come across this before or does anyone have any idea what it could be? I would like to have any idea of what I am talking about when I speak to the garage about it.
Thanks
Lee
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 18th Sep 2011 12:15 pm |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
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could be a sticking brake caliper. It doesnt sound like the EPB shoes binding if it doesnt do it unless you brake.
is the wheel hot to touch ??. Duncan
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:23 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic31775.h...+%2Bwheels Duncan
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:24 pm |
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scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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Hi Duncan,
Thanks for coming back to me.
I could feel heat coming from the general area but the wheel itself didn't seem to be hot to touch.
Thanks
Lee
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:27 pm |
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scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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Just had a read of your post Duncan and it sounds very similar. I hadn't actually driven that far so the wheel may start to get hot if I had taken it further.
The only thing I don't get is the feeling as if you are driving over humps. It was like I was driving on a flat tyre.
Lee
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:36 pm |
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character
Member Since: 31 Dec 2007
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I would bet a £1 to a dollar of pooh its the NSR brake shoe over adjusted when they stripped down the brakes whilst servicing them prior to having the pads replaced 
BTW if you look at the brake hub you'll also notice its slightly red from the heat 
Obviously they did not take it for a test drive after the works were completed, so I assume not a franchised LR dealer, simple fix take it back and get them to adjust accordingly
I recon this problem falls in to the "been there, seen it, done it" thread hey chaps 
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:39 pm |
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scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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Thanks for that,
I will mention it to them when I take it back.
Would that also explain the humping sensation? 
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:45 pm |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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the EPB is a possibility, but if it doesnt do it unless you brake i wouldnt have thought it would be.
unless its just a coincidence that you didnt brake and it didnt get hot.
can you jack the wheel up and see how easy it is to rotate. Duncan
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:56 pm |
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character
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yep coz the brake shoe is physically stuck to the drum due to the heat exchange (only a small tolerance between shoe and drum) so when yer stationary the air suspension will want to "settle" but cant coz the brake show will not allow the vehicle to adjust its height.
If you've go a rubber mallet, give the wheel a wack with the EPB off and the auto box in park/manual 1st gear when its cold and keep the park brake off.
Get someone to drive the car at a slow walking pace to hear if its still binding and give him a wack or two till it releases 
BTW yer local franchsied LR dealer does have a special tool to adjust both sides of the brakes shoes and its not a mallet
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| 18th Sep 2011 12:58 pm |
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scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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I'm going to get the garage to come and pick it up tomorrow so I will let them do it in the rain rather than me!
At least I have an idea of what it may be now.
Thanks
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| 18th Sep 2011 1:00 pm |
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character
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DiscoDunc wrote:the EPB is a possibility, but if it doesnt do it unless you brake i wouldnt have thought it would be.
unless its just a coincidence that you didnt brake and it didnt get hot.
can you jack the wheel up and see how easy it is to rotate.
He never said it was when he braked, but when driving Dunc, had the same issue around 3 years ago when on holiday in France, fully laddened on the motorway, thought it was the road surfaces so took no notice till we got back home and found the burnt drum then on stripping down, all the brake shoes were totally trashed and disintergrated (hence the vibration), LR dealer paid for cost whilst at the tyre/brake fitters so no harm done
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| 18th Sep 2011 1:04 pm |
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character
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scroco wrote:I'm going to get the garage to come and pick it up tomorrow so I will let them do it in the rain rather than me!
At least I have an idea of what it may be now.
Thanks
so was it a franchised LR dealer or independent? BTW they'll not do it on yer drive coz they'll have to take the drum off to see if the brake shoes are trashed/and to re-clean the dust away (so worth you being there to inspect to your satisfaction). 
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| 18th Sep 2011 1:07 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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character wrote:He never said it was when he braked, but when driving Dunc,
yes he did
Quote:I let it cool down and then cruised home using the gears to slow me down (no issues when using the gears to brake).
impling he didnt use the brakes Duncan
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If I'd known I was going to be so thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more beer last night.
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D4 HSE MY13 SOLD
FFRR 3.6 Vogue TDV8 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D4 SE TECH MY15 SOLD
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D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
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| 18th Sep 2011 1:13 pm |
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scroco
Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Northants
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Yeah an independent garage not LR dealer. My local LR dealership are about as much use as a chocolate frog!
Only interested in you if your bank balance exceeds 1 million. Otherwise they don't give you the time of day.
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| 18th Sep 2011 1:20 pm |
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edoardo2677
Member Since: 29 Nov 2008
Location: kent
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I'm having same problem! Mine is offside. Not sure if EPB or not. Just had new discs and pads all round and rear shoes. Rear off side disc/drum gets seriously hot. And pongs!
Frustrated,  Any ideas??
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| 18th Sep 2011 9:25 pm |
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