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amazing
 


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jump start

Hi
lots about getting jump starting and not connecting straight to the battery but, What about when giving someone a jump (start) do the same rules apply? It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.  
Post #8567069th Nov 2011 9:22 am
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jm105845
 


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hi

i have jump started straight from battery terminals no issues

regards

jj  
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amazing
 


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Ahh but you have the "luck of the Irish " on your side

as only 1/16th Irish I need good management not good luck.. Very Happy

I don't want to have any ECU issues It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.  
Post #8567239th Nov 2011 10:09 am
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I've jump started other vehicles from mine before with no problems.

Generally Positive from Battery to Battery, Negative from D3 Battery, to Other Car Ground point.

Connect them up, start the D3 & let it charge the other vehicle for a few minutes. Usually give the revs around 1500 to help the alternator push the power out.

then start the other car & all done. Bodsys Brake Bible

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Post #8567269th Nov 2011 10:14 am
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hi

not sure why it would damage the ECU as long as you connect the jump leads
correctly

i have found that the battery is powerful enough to start the jumped vechicle
without starting the disco

regards

jj  
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I recently jump started my girlfriends car off the aux battery (Optima YT). I connected positive to positive and negative to negative.

Anyone knows why it is recommended to connect negative to an earth point rather than directly to the negative terminal? Dennis

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Post #8567619th Nov 2011 11:33 am
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for safetys sake i got a portable jump start ,dont want to mess with the car ,will carry mine through the winter months . Thumbs Up 2008 ,hse, it does what it says .  
Post #8567749th Nov 2011 12:05 pm
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nighthawk wrote:
Anyone knows why it is recommended to connect negative to an earth point rather than directly to the negative terminal?


I believe it is to keep any potential sparks generated at the dead negative terminal away from the battery when you connect it, (there's apparently a risk of fire/explosion from vapours coming from the battery vents). Shocked

Not sure if it's as important nowadays with maintenance free/sealed ones, but I'm sure there's still a small vent hole on them all.

I understand it's also important to connect jump leads in the right order - to minimise the risk of accidentally shorting them together or against the car body/engine.

There's some useful advice here from the AA http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/break...leads.html 2006 D3 S (I use it when I can prise the keys off the wife!)
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Ahh thanks for that si. Makes sense really Thumbs Up Dennis

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Post #8568979th Nov 2011 5:50 pm
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Unlike the D3, the D4 has a voltage sensor between the earth terminal of the battery and the earthing point, which is why you shouldn't connect anything that draws a largish current directly to the negative terminal. Use the earthing point in front of the battery.

Cheers,

Gordon ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
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Post #85705110th Nov 2011 1:24 am
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Might as well jump..

as Gorodn says "which is why you shouldn't connect anything that draws a largish current directly to the negative terminal. Use the earthing point in front of the battery."

but what about the opposite situation is this including when you jump someone else then? That was my main question. I would have thought it safer to follow this then too? It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.  
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Re: Might as well jump..

amazing wrote:

but what about the opposite situation is this including when you jump someone else then? That was my main question. I would have thought it safer to follow this then too?


Yes, whether your drawing or feeding current to the battery.

Cheers,

Gordon (spelt it right this time!) ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.  
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Thanks for the clarification

Also thought your name was in secret code to maintain anonymity Very Happy

amzaing It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.  
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