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Slimer
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Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
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Absolutely Si, but it happens to the best of us. More importantly is the getting unstuck, it's shocking how some people do it risking injury to themselves and others not to mention damage to the vehicle for the sake of a 'quick recovery' The End
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29th Sep 2006 11:36 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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oh I agree mate... and was only ribbing
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29th Sep 2006 11:38 pm |
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Slimer
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I know mate and I'm half cut
When you next around this way for a beer The End
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29th Sep 2006 11:40 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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next week. ping me over the weekend and we can make a plan for some Bombay Blue 8)
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29th Sep 2006 11:41 pm |
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Slimer
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8) The End
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29th Sep 2006 11:42 pm |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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Yes - big snatches can be nasty but it is a quick and effective and used all the time here in Aust.
I've had a lok at the rear recovery point - it's very serious! So happy with that one! Just concerned about the front one.
And yes - maybe, with my new toy, once I get the STTs fitted, I just wont' get stuck...
Hey - does anyone know if TJM bougfht out a bullbar?
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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30th Sep 2006 3:39 am |
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d3matt
Member Since: 03 Aug 2005
Location: South Oxfordshire
Posts: 1485
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simon_arch1 wrote:Yes - big snatches can be nasty
Hmmm.
I heard flies can be a problem in Aus too. Matt
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30th Sep 2006 8:38 am |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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Simon,
The recovery points are very strong. Strong enough hang a D3 from it and then another off the rear recovery point... quoted in Autocar bay a LR chap.
-s
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30th Sep 2006 9:45 am |
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nwoods
Member Since: 03 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 563
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PCH wrote:....Mine was in for it's 18 month service.
Goodness, and I thought MY dealer's service department was slow!
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1st Oct 2006 6:04 am |
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Vo Rogue
Member Since: 16 Jan 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 123
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I'm in Melbourne also and asked the same questions when I got the vehicle - which I have had stuck - less than 80 KM from Melbourne in Wombat Forest and the only way it was going was down the hill.
As an engineer, haveing read the manual and looked at the front point I wouldnt do it. A winch pull sure but you are snatching 2.7 Tonnes of car off a point that is not designed for it. Sure I am conservative but haveing snatched a bull dozer once with a fully loaded 4WD Fertiliser Spreader - and 20 Tonnes of Spreader going in one direction while the snatch got thinner ..... and thinnner ..... and thinner really makes you think about what you are doing.
That front point relies totally on a U Bolt in Tension. Do you know the specs of the U Bolt ? because I dont and I wouldnt risk it.
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2nd Oct 2006 1:01 pm |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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Vo Rogue - I'm with you - will be looking for an alternative approach asap...
cheers,
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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3rd Oct 2006 12:06 am |
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PCH
Member Since: 12 Jan 2005
Location: Anywhere but work
Posts: 812
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I believe the best technique for snatching is to load the snatch strap up with enough tension from the pulling vehicle while the bogged vehicle stands on their brakes and then releases the brakes. If the bogged vehicle is pulled forward by the snatch strap tension then do it again until clear. If no progress is made then dig more around the wheels/chassis/diffs etc... to clear the obstuction and try again.
I understand this technique prevents the huge shock loads on recovery points, shackles and snatch straps.
Chris 2011 Discovery 4 (MY12) SDV6 HSE with General Grabber AT's, Traxide Aux Battery system, custom rear drawers and Autosafe half height cargo barrier
Gone - 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE
ARB Bull Bar, Warn 9.5XP Winch, IPF D/Lights, Cooper STT's, LR Raised Air Intake, Traxide aux battery system, custom drawers and half height Autosafe cargo barrier, Mitchell Bros 4x4 tow hitch
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3rd Oct 2006 2:04 am |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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That's a new one on me - but it makes some sense, esp for non-hard core off-roading, and it would certainly reduce the stresses. But not a snatching method that is taught by the 4wd off-road training schools...
cheers
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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3rd Oct 2006 2:45 am |
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