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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
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I've ordered a Euro spec SE model and bel'eve that I'll be getting what they call the "Mid-Line ICE".
I believe that this means that I don't get any touch-screen functionality but does that mean that I'll lose any control over the functionality of the Fuel Burning Heater option?
Will I stil ahve full control of the programmable functions or will it just be via the remote fob?
Cheers,
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 24th Sep 2010 10:15 am |
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elemental
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Deepest Aargau
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The Swiss HSE comes with mid-line ICE as standard. No control over FBH, it's not the separately programmable/controllable standheizung/block heater (which is a 2k option), it's just to warm the cabin quicker from cold starts under 7C (I think). ICE is touchscreen though just lower spec/fewer speakers than the fancy and expensive upgrade. Sounds great despite this anyway. using arm rest more than rear diff
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| 24th Sep 2010 11:27 am |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 140
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I have ordered the optional FBH.
I understand that the actual heater unit is already there so I'm paying £850 ex-VAT + Swiss import costs for the added functionality to use it as an auxilliary heater / a/c source...
For that money, I expect to get the remote key fob but I was wondering if there is full control over the timer/programmable functions via the non-touch screen Mid-Line ICE?
The trouble is that non-HSE models are so darned rare in this country, I've never seen one! I don't think I've even seen one with the Mid-Line ICE. The local service department will be highly amused when they see mine with its cloth seats!!
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| 24th Sep 2010 12:05 pm |
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elemental
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Deepest Aargau
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Ah sorry for the misunderstanding. I've never seen an TDV6 SE either. There's a dealer in ZH that has 5 V8 SEs all green with near consecutive VINs and cloth from 2004. But that don't help you much 
But I will say that my mid-line ICE is fully touch screen for all functions, however I don't have the function you are enquiring about, so am again less than useful.  using arm rest more than rear diff
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| 24th Sep 2010 12:50 pm |
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RichardB
Member Since: 03 May 2010
Location: Hants
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I suspect the spec you have is very close to the UK XS model.
The XS has a good ICE but not quite as top end as the HSE. The ICE is touch screen controllable. Our XS (or HSE for that matter) doesn't come with the FBH remote as standard. On all models its an extra. But if you buy the extra remote option, it then also has configured the timer/manual option that is operable from the touch screen.
If you have gone for the remote, it's a pretty good bet you will get the on screen stuff too. Not a chea option but it is rather good to have.
(I did it on the cheap by getting BAS to do config tweak and then added the remote module in  )
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| 24th Sep 2010 9:48 pm |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 140
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Hi RichardB,
I had originally hoped that I could have had the Reversing Camera and iPod lead with the standard Mid-Line ICE but I was told that I'd need to pay circa £650 (plus taxes) to upgrade to from Mid-Line to High-Line (and possibly even added navigation that I don't want/need).
The upshot is that I'm sticking with Mid-Line ICE with no reversinge camera (boo hoo!) but I still hope that there will be a basic auxillary input (if not a full blown iPod connection).
What confused me was that the price list states that the Hi-Line ICE is 'touch screen' but you saying that the Mid-Line is already touch screen...
The difference apepars to be that only the Highline is branded Harman/Kardon (they are both 240w and both have 9 speakers but does High-Line give you uprated speakers?) and it comes with the USB socket / iPod functionality (but they still want to charge you more for a cable to plug one in!)
Cheers
Option Code 025KM
Audio System: 9 Speakers including Subwoofer, Radio, Single Slot CD Player, Auxiliary Input, Audio Amplifier (240 Watts) (formerly known as "Mid-Line ICE")
Option Code 025GP
Audio System - Harman/Kardon (USB): 9 Speakers including Subwoofer, Radio, Single Slot CD Player, Portable Audio Interface, Touch Screen, Audio Amplifier (240 Watts) (formerly known as "Hi-Line ICE")
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| 28th Sep 2010 10:01 am |
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RichardB
Member Since: 03 May 2010
Location: Hants
Posts: 485
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MogulBoy wrote:Hi RichardB,
I had originally hoped that I could have had the Reversing Camera and iPod lead with the standard Mid-Line ICE but I was told that I'd need to pay circa £650 (plus taxes) to upgrade to from Mid-Line to High-Line (and possibly even added navigation that I don't want/need).
The upshot is that I'm sticking with Mid-Line ICE with no reversinge camera (boo hoo!) but I still hope that there will be a basic auxillary input (if not a full blown iPod connection).
What confused me was that the price list states that the Hi-Line ICE is 'touch screen' but you saying that the Mid-Line is already touch screen...
The difference apepars to be that only the Highline is branded Harman/Kardon (they are both 240w and both have 9 speakers but does High-Line give you uprated speakers?) and it comes with the USB socket / iPod functionality (but they still want to charge you more for a cable to plug one in!)
Cheers
Option Code 025KM
Audio System: 9 Speakers including Subwoofer, Radio, Single Slot CD Player, Auxiliary Input, Audio Amplifier (240 Watts) (formerly known as "Mid-Line ICE")
Option Code 025GP
Audio System - Harman/Kardon (USB): 9 Speakers including Subwoofer, Radio, Single Slot CD Player, Portable Audio Interface, Touch Screen, Audio Amplifier (240 Watts) (formerly known as "Hi-Line ICE")
It's possible that your european spec is different to the UK one. The XS and HSE here differ in several ways.
The XS gives touch screen, Nav, good hi-fi (Harmon Kardon) with ipod & usb interface controllable from touch screen and bluetooth. Ipod lead is an extra as is the reversing camera
The HSE then ups the number of speakers by a couple, I think adds rear seat entertainment (not absolutely sure on this as I have the XS), provides premium Nav (i.e. has 4x4, off road screen and traffic info) and includes reversing camera as standard. Not sure if the ipod lead is std. (I'd hope so for the premium!) Also has other stuff like electric seats and sunroofs etc which is a bit off topic here.
So here we can get the XS and add camera and ipod without much issue. I'd talk carefully to the dealer. to confirm or otherwise the touch screen aspect. If you have the touch screen, the reversing camera is a great extra - def worth having in my view.
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| 28th Sep 2010 10:15 pm |
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elemental
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Deepest Aargau
Posts: 91
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RichardB wrote:
The HSE then ups the number of speakers by a couple, I think adds rear seat entertainment (not absolutely sure on this as I have the XS), provides premium Nav (i.e. has 4x4, off road screen and traffic info) and includes reversing camera as standard. Not sure if the ipod lead is std. (
All these for the Swiss HSE are options, except the premium nav which is included with the mid line ice. The ipod lead is a cost free option but you have to explicitly order it or else they don't supply it, but the connection is there in the cubby box next to the USB input. Agree on reverse camera. It's great. using arm rest more than rear diff
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| 29th Sep 2010 9:32 am |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 140
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The wind has changed and I'm already thinking about the skiiing season ahead and a toasty D4 to drive home in.
Wishful thinking perhaps but does anyone know over what sort of range you can expect the the remote fob for the FBH work (I accept that whether were talking line of sight or not would have an impact).
Does the fob give you any feedback that the message has got through?
I seem to recall hearing about a 1-2km range when I first heard about similar systems some years ago which would be pretty cool and then of course, I assume that there's still the possibility of a mobile phone based activation mod.
Cheers,
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| 29th Sep 2010 6:25 pm |
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Ian825
Member Since: 16 Jan 2006
Location: East Yorkshire
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Press the on button on my fob & the green light on the fob comes on then starts to flash every few seconds to say that the message has been received & the FBH is running, alternatively the light on the fob goes red to say its failed (which I've only seen when trying it at unrealistic ranges) it works easily from my office to car park which is several hundred yards but not yet tried it further so don't know the full range.
I think the book gives a range? but it's hammering it down here so will have to wait as I ain't going outside to get the book until it's stopped 
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| 29th Sep 2010 6:32 pm |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 140
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Thanks. I'm glad to hear that there is some form of visual feeback!
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| 29th Sep 2010 9:05 pm |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
Posts: 140
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Just to close the loop on this one, I've now been advised that for vehicles without the touch screen, the timed climate operation can be accessed from the vehicle settings menu (via the 5" TFT screen in front of the driver).
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| 30th Sep 2010 9:00 am |
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RichardB
Member Since: 03 May 2010
Location: Hants
Posts: 485
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MogulBoy wrote:The wind has changed and I'm already thinking about the skiiing season ahead and a toasty D4 to drive home in.
Wishful thinking perhaps but does anyone know over what sort of range you can expect the the remote fob for the FBH work (I accept that whether were talking line of sight or not would have an impact).
Does the fob give you any feedback that the message has got through?
I seem to recall hearing about a 1-2km range when I first heard about similar systems some years ago which would be pretty cool and then of course, I assume that there's still the possibility of a mobile phone based activation mod.
Cheers,
I believe range is "up to" 1000m. Haven't tried to do a test though. Yes, it gives feedback via LED
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| 30th Sep 2010 9:46 pm |
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