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Location: GL
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It doesn't have to be pumped out hot.
Some people would say it would drain better when hot.
Some people would say having it cold would have more oil drained to the sump
Yeah you could put a little extra in.
Some bottles have a tube in the cap to help you fill in the level plug and it's not difficult on the disco.
26th Nov 2016 11:13 am
trailhound
Member Since: 27 Aug 2015
Location: Colchester
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Cheers for the advice Pete.
Any ideas why these "kits" come with 7 liters?
26th Nov 2016 1:35 pm
Pete K
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Location: GL
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I assume somewhere on a spec sheet it must say 6.? litres
Anyway, buying 7 liters is quite good value, rather than individual bottles.
I used about 5.5 litres
so only had 1 bottle spare
26th Nov 2016 4:51 pm
trailhound
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Location: Colchester
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Does anybody know if the drain plug on the (original) auto-box sump is re-usable or supposed to be?
21st Dec 2016 10:36 pm
trailhound
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Location: Colchester
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Did mine today re Filo method. Only got 4 liters out of the top. Brown rather than pitch black. A couple of things that I noticed today that helped and I don't think have been previously explained - though obvious to an extent.
First - People have said the refill process is slow. Mine squirted back in in 2 minutes (in December). I left the oil on top of the radiator for most of the morning to warm it up. I also ripped out the narrow tubes from the pressure sprayer, attaching my wider tube to the outlet (with jubilee clip); I've seen this done and not done in the photo's so worth mentioning. One pressurized I had to tip the fluid (as the narrow tube to the bottom of the 7 liter container was now gone), so it could escape from the outlet at the top. Literally all disappeared in under 2 mins.
Second - I popped 100mls more in than came out. When I check the level at 35C; 100mls burped out before it turned into a trickle.
Didn't drain the pan as I'm not sure if the plug is re-usable - Any ideas?
Will repeat in the spring.
22nd Dec 2016 5:11 pm
trailhound
Member Since: 27 Aug 2015
Location: Colchester
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trailhound wrote:
Does anybody know if the drain plug on the (original) auto-box sump is re-usable or supposed to be?
Any Ideas if the plastic plug and/or washer is re-usable. It makes me nervous as it looks very "leakable"
27th Dec 2016 10:43 pm
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 762
reused mine last time I did a change,just make sure its clean around the plug before you try to undo it be carefull as they are plastic and clean the o ring up before fitting think the torque is something like 4nm so just nip up and check a few days later for leaksplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
28th Dec 2016 12:06 pm
trailhound
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Location: Colchester
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Thanks eightfoot I'll give it a go then.
28th Dec 2016 11:33 pm
z1234567890
Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
Location: Dubai
Posts: 161
Mike767 wrote:
I have just completed this job thanks to Filo's excellent guide. I did a lot of research on which oil to use and eventually went with the Millermatic ATF DM. They recommend it for the D3 on their website and it cost me £55 for 10 litres.
The pipe that Filo is pointing at in his photo is the outlet, which I extended using an adapter and piece of garden hose. I then got the wife to run the engine until oil stopped coming out and got just under 4 litres in my bucket. In addition, I drained another litre at the filter sump and then replaced the plug.
To refill, I just connected a piece of (dry) garden hose to the union that the outflow had been connected to and hooked it up to a pressure garden spray which was big enough to take the 5 litres of Millermatic.
I drove the car about 10 miles and repeated the whole exercise again. There was a big improvement in the oil after the first flush so it should be pretty good after the second. Very easy job and it seems to have got rid of the shudders usually encountered on the hill on the way to the pub!
Wish this kind activity always come with photo, good job!
6th Jan 2017 9:07 am
z1234567890
Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
Location: Dubai
Posts: 161
luciogodoy wrote:
Hi All
Gearbox flushed & oil filter changed. Many thanks to Filo.
I did a hybrid change, I followed Filo's HowTo, but also changed the standard 1 unit gearbox oil filter/pan, to the 2 pieces pan and oil filter - it was very easy to do.
As per the picture, I have the kit setup already, if you are interested, you can borough-it.
Lucio
Hi Lucio thanks for the video, so you remove oil with 2 way
1. from outlet of transmission oil cooler (over radiator)
2. from drain plug
How did you refill the oil? How much oil?
6th Jan 2017 9:10 am
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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There are 3 fill methods.
1) Putting the fluid in under pressure through the cooler lines.
This is what the bottle on the ladder is for.
2) Using a hose into the level plug, and let gravity fill the box
3) Using a large syringe to fill though the level plug.
See the end of this video.
With both 2 & 3 it is done in 2 stages.
1) Fill box to level plug.
2) Start engine (level will lower) (and run through gears)
3) Fill box more to level plug.
4) Insert plug
5) switch off engine (fluid will rise so plug needs to be fitted)
6th Jan 2017 1:20 pm
z1234567890
Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
Location: Dubai
Posts: 161
Quote:
1) Putting the fluid in under pressure through the cooler lines.
This is what the bottle on the ladder is for.
Means you need to push the oil? or just leave oil at the container and it will be sucked by pump inside the transmission?
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6th Jan 2017 6:45 pm
KostasA
Member Since: 23 Aug 2015
Location: nairobi
Posts: 286
if you read this post carefully (start from page 1) film is giving a very analytical procedure. by disconnecting the upper pipe on your diagram (pipe 1) and with the help of an extension you can drain the oil out (having the engine running0. then through the connection in the radiator you fill equal amount of transition oil. that is what the posts describes.
personally i did a hybrid of this solution cause even if you fill equal volume of oil you are not 100% that it is the correct amount, unless you have the car from 0 miles and you do it for first time.
my procedure was:
1. drained most of the fluid (around 4 and something lt) through Filo's method. 10 min to do the job.
2. drained from drain plug under car another 1lt or more.
3. topped up 4.5lt through the connection on the radiator (as the Filo's post) through a manual pump, same as picture above on the ladder.
4. rest 1.5 or so through the drain plug, side of autobox trox type, till i saw some comping out. then connected the fault meter started the car and monitor the temperature of the oil to reach between 35C and 40C and let it drain the expanded oil. once reached to 40C closed the filling plug and stopped the car.
5. last step was to drive the car for 5 miles to check, once satisfied on the result had a beer as a reward.
in overall if you don't change the filter is a very straight forward job that takes no longer than an hour.
next oil change in 20,000Km will do exactly as Filo described (same in and out) since now i am sure that the original quantity is correct.
6th Jan 2017 7:34 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10363
The green handle is pumped on the top which puts pressure in the bottle and forces the oil into the gearbox
6th Jan 2017 7:48 pm
geoff.
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
Location: West kent
Posts: 8531
Pete K wrote:
There are 3 fill methods.
1) Putting the fluid in under pressure through the cooler lines.
This is what the bottle on the ladder is for.
2) Using a hose into the level plug, and let gravity fill the box
3) Using a large syringe to fill though the level plug.
See the end of this video.
With both 2 & 3 it is done in 2 stages.
1) Fill box to level plug.
2) Start engine (level will lower) (and run through gears)
3) Fill box more to level plug.
4) Insert plug
5) switch off engine (fluid will rise so plug needs to be fitted)
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