Member Since: 18 Jun 2017
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 698
DanH wrote:
aja4x4 wrote:
Its most likely the the oil pump casing has failed were the belt tensioner attaches.
Its very common most people fit the uprated oil pump before this happens.
Your engine may need a lot of work to get it going again or it may be un-repairable.
The reason I ask is that I was hoping to sell it ( as a non runner) but is it the case that the potential damage (or not) will only be revealed if you delve inside and take a look? Is that a correct assumption?
I was hoping that it was a case of the belt snapping and thats all, there was no bang or distressed engine sound. I was hoping that having read so many posts on here and seen the things you guys are capable of it would sell as a repair project. (The rest of the car is in great condition, loads of parts less than three years old.) Is it time for it to go to Land Rover heaven !??
There is always a chance it that it didn't suffer severe damage if you were only traveling at very low speed, mine failed in my driveway and i was able to repair it for not much more than the timing belt kit cost. You will only know after a top end strip down to assess the condition, as such it is only worth buying as a project or re-powering.
6th Jun 2021 9:57 am
kidafa
Member Since: 18 Jun 2021
Location: Redwood Park
Posts: 3
Such an awesome thread thanks all the way from Australia DM!
18th Jun 2021 12:44 pm
NotaDisco
Member Since: 31 Jul 2021
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2
Hi Guy's hope you can help, I put the timing belt on with out loosing the bolts on the camshaft pulleys. I had a issue with tensioner bolt. Pulled the tensioner off to replaced the bolt.
Decided to do the correct process and went to loosen the camshaft pulley bolts, and not realizing you need to hold the camshaft in place, the right hand one (facing the the motor) moved when I undid one of the bolts. Is there a procedure to put the camshaft back in the correct place. Feels like it fell of the top of a cam lobe.
Regards
Keith
31st Jul 2021 6:44 am
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2463
Did you not have the locking pins in place
I take it your are loosening the three bolts on each pulley, you just need to turn the cam and fit the timing pins.
The timing pins hold the camshaft in the correct place not the pulleys, so as long as you have the cam pins and the crank locking pin in place you should be fine.
Just turn both cam pulleys all the way clockwise, fit the belt adjust the tensioner and tighten all the bolts before removing the locking pins.Andrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
31st Jul 2021 7:18 am
NotaDisco
Member Since: 31 Jul 2021
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2
Hi I thought I had the pins in correctly but apparently i didn't and the cam moved. The left side cam is still in timed to the crank but the right cam is no longer in the correct position.
I will need to find the correct relation of the crank to the cams and get the the timing all lined up.
Put it all back to what I though the correct and turned the engine over to get the pins in the correctly and could feel the piston hitting the valve. Doom and gloom.
Thanks for the feed back, looks like I will need to go off the the Peugeot forms as the engine is a
2.7 HDi turbo in a Peugeot 407.
You DISCO guys actually work on your vehicles so I thought I would ask here as the Peugeot groups didn't look like they had much info on this engine and belt changes.
Regards
Keith
1st Aug 2021 5:14 am
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10673
If it’s only a bit out you should be able to sort.
Put others back to locking
Remove belt
Move to problem cam slightly
Lock it
Put belt on
Hand crank again to test for clashes
1st Aug 2021 5:27 am
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2463
Did you remove the rear crank locking pin or just pull it back a bit?
I did this the first time a did a belt on one of these engines, i thought i would just pull it back enough to spin the engine over twice and then push it back in to check the timing again.
When i turned the engine it went so far before hitting something solid, which i thought was the valves and pistons but luckily it was just a torque converter bolt hitting the locking tool.
If your in any doubt remove the cam pulleys and you can then see the cam locking slot and the hole in the head the pin fits in to.Andrew
D3 2.7tdv6 2005
D4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial died and gone to LR heaven
D5 3.0 SDV6 HSE
1st Aug 2021 7:11 am
millsym2k
Member Since: 07 Sep 2021
Location: uk
Posts: 4
belt tensioner
Hi Mikey when fitting belt tensioner i follow book but when i pull on allen key to tension belt the whole center turns and goes over cam loosening belt...all i did to get here was remove tensioner after mole grip on all pullys to stop belt moving...i noticed the square was not in window on tensioner so loosened bolt to turn square in to window but its not possible ..do you think belt may be stretched ?or am i missing something? Mike
7th Sep 2021 1:29 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 5036
Are you refitting an old belt?yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
7th Sep 2021 1:37 pm
millsym2k
Member Since: 07 Sep 2021
Location: uk
Posts: 4
tensioner
Hi profs g did you try phone me ..i received international call threw me a bit..but was same flag as you fly ...yes fitting of old belt guess i need new one thanks for reply
7th Sep 2021 3:31 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 5036
Nope I didn't call you I don't know you're number!
As for the belt refitting a used belt is a very bad idea!
You risk serious damage to the engine if not total destruction.
Fit a new Dayco (Genuine OEM) belt and the tensioner. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
7th Sep 2021 3:44 pm
millsym2k
Member Since: 07 Sep 2021
Location: uk
Posts: 4
tension
thanks for reply ...yes im going to put new belt and idlers new tensioner ..i didnt think these belts stretched that far how wrong i was...thank you again..tried send pic but cant navigate that feature ..Mike
7th Sep 2021 4:13 pm
Markon1986
Member Since: 03 Apr 2022
Location: Maribor
Posts: 7
Greeting
I drive L320 2.7td 2007.year
i just did a great service kit. It was only now after the replacement that I found this forum and learned how to replace the timing belt at the rear of the fuel pump and that the oil pump should be replaced preventively.
I have not been able to find any other topic where there is a detailed description of how it is done.
Please if anyone has a video of pump belt replacement, user Pete K
had it on page 17 set but no longer opens the old link, thanks a lot in advance.
3rd Apr 2022 7:47 pm
Markon1986
Member Since: 03 Apr 2022
Location: Maribor
Posts: 7
What do the pictures show that the oil pump is old?
Paddington wrote:
morning all
I've now owned my discovery 3 for 7 years and have done many long trips in her with my family.
so this morning I started my cambelt change and to my horror I found this what I believe to be an old style oil pump.
please can anyone confirm this is the case.
I think in won't touch it just put it back together and get a new oil pump and do the belts and oil pump together what do you think ?
3rd Apr 2022 8:12 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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