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mek
 


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Having just gone over the pictures from when I did the front belt, oil and water pump change last weekend I realize that the year of the belt removed was 2005... so much for that full service history when I bought it!

If I don’t change the rear belt for a few months what’s the worst that can happen?
  
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If it does break you will come to an unceremonious stop, but nothing more than that. I'm amazed the original belt lasted so long especially if you experience cold winter temperatures Shocked
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mek
 


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Indeed... maybe I should go and buy a lottery ticket! It has 160k KMs on the clock. That probably saved it.
  
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Just as an aside, did you replace the oil pump when you did the front belt?
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The rear belt failing can cause damage to the main wiring loom across the rear of the engine and surrounding pipes, dont leave it to long..

Flack
  
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mek
 


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PROFSR G wrote:
Just as an aside, did you replace the oil pump when you did the front belt?


I did. I had no shortage of expletives for that moment when I realized that I had to remove the alternator and bracket!

Thanks Flack. I’ll do it in Q1 next year. I actually lost my job this week because my project at work has been cancelled so I might have some time on my hands in February. Plus having worked on the car each of the last 3 Saturdays to get it through the Swiss MOT this month I fancied a break.
  
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Hi there

I've got some troubles to fit the special tool DA1120 - Britpart - to lock the crankshaft (manual transmission). First it seems to be a different diameter (tool about 35mm, hole about 32mm) and secondly the starter screw has bigger bolts than the nut of the tool. Am I fitting the right tool to lock the flywheel with this tool?

Picture 1: Flywheel type - picture from woody23, page 11



Picture 2: Locking Tool




Thank's a lot in advance and Happy new Year!
  
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Certainly the cheap eBay kits require a little filling down to fit. Not as much as your experiencing, but I guess not many use britpart kits.

The bolt isn’t meant to fit that thread.
  
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Emery cloth, remove the plating is normally sufficient for it to fit.
  
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35mm is the correct diameter for the tool, it may be you have a build up of rust is the block casting preventing it from seating. That said, I have on occasion thought there was more than just rust causing interference with the tool fit. (casting variation?)

So either you skim a little of the block, the tool itself, or both! As Pete K say's the transmission bolt will not fit the tool, so you will need an 8mm bolt to lock it in place. Thumbs Up
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Thank's a lot for all your fast replies. Glad to hear that it's the correct tool. I'll skim the tool until it fits.
  
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I had to use a grinder on the tool I got in a kit from Island 4x4 a couple of weeks ago, was confused at first but when I figured the tool was too bit it wasn't too much of an issue to sort out.

Kit was only £30 and the pin didn't break when torqueing the hell out of the crank bolt so no big deal Smile
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Yes that extreme torque puts high stress through the crankshaft and through the flywheel, why dident they just put a key in that shaft/pulley instead of base it on friction to hold it.
I had to use a 2 meter long braker bar to loosen the bolt 😳
 

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@ Kviasen

The official JLR tool for holding the pully in position is a different one and positioned at the pully...
So no big torque on the crankshaft then when mount or dismount the bolt...
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Thought this was the official tool.
Still goes at the gearbox end

https://jlrequipment.service-solutions.com...U=303-1123
  
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