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Chicken Duck
 


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Hmm wonder if this roof will have same prob

  
Post #6805737th Aug 2010 8:44 am
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According to LR..................yes. And it won't be their fault. Rolling Eyes
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Post #6805977th Aug 2010 10:35 am
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lee157 wrote:
Very interesting, the only difference between yours and mine is i have the glass roof, but the fixing points for the roof rails are completely different and span a wider area. On the glass roof the rails actually sit on the 3 mounting points aprox 5mm above the gutter.

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Hi Lee could you please email me your VIN number as I intend to write to Landrover
 Mike  
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Letter to Landrover

Hi folks, I have sent a letter off to Landrover along with the photographs in an attempt to get a full reply from them with regard to roof rails, fittings, racks and vehicle roof loads.
I will post their reply .....if I get one.
 Mike  
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Re: Letter to Landrover

The letter has gone "registered" so they cannot deny getting it.
 Mike  
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It will be interesting to see what they have to say.
 â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games”
Ernest Hemmingway
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This is putting me off a D3... Particuarly the size of the bill to correct damage like this. Is Mike the only person to have suffered this?

I doubt its overloading as such that has caused the problem. It will be either the car/rack not flexing together (which I would have thought would have caused more visible damage) or fatigue (you will be amazed the damage high cycle fatigue can do will small loads).

Interesting the difference in fittings...
  
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Re: Letter to Landrover

MELISCAT wrote:
The letter has gone "registered" so they cannot deny getting it.


That will be interesting if you get a answer. We have been working on L358 as LR are getting stretch in the roof rail bolts when the roof in heavy loaded and off road, the rail is then moving. seeing the effort on this, and on problems on Freelander leakage before that I cannot believe the nuts you had where correct fitment,
The captive system is correct on all vehicles I have worked on, (LR,Jag Mercedes etc) I will when I get the opportunity speak to the LR fastener standards engineer I will see what he says although I doubt he knows about it.
 
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I think Mike is the only one with the problem as far as I know. I think he is also the only one with those fixing points, all who have looked have found theirs to be the ones with the load spreading plate.
It is LRs (and dealers) attitude that stinks on this one I think.
 â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games”
Ernest Hemmingway
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D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System. 
 
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I am very surprised no water leaks have occurred in that bolted joint. lucky the roof lining is not wreaked.
 
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Repair photos: 2 bolts have been fitted to the front rail fixing.
All the plated areas have then been covered with soun deadening material.







I am still awaiting a reply from Landrover

The roof load weight of 75kg has been confirmed by an article in February 2010 Issue of LRO. I quote; " There are plenty of roof racks to choose from, but you may want to get one as light as possible, bearing in mind that maximum roof load is just 75kg - a roof rack and three 20-litre jerry cans of fuel will come close to this figure, if not exceed it."
 Mike  
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MELISCAT wrote:
"bearing in mind that maximum roof load is just 75kg - a roof rack and three 20-litre jerry cans of fuel will come close to this figure, if not exceed it."


Shocked oh s Censored t...I think I need to weigh the stuff I'll be loading for the holidays...

I'm glad I followed this thread.

Good luck with pursuing LR Thumbs Up
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Yes it is a bit of a worry for us all Shocked
 Mike  
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work friend has a Citreon car with a roof load of 90KG Big Cry
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Manufacturers always quote conservative figures. In Oz these vehicles are used for ouback touring often by grey nomads with much higher loads on them and there have been no issues that I know of. I still think this is a one off.
The figure given by LR will be a worst case scenario more likely related to overturning with a load on and nothing in the cabin counteract it.
 â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games”
Ernest Hemmingway
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D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System. 
 
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