Rex
Member Since: 17 May 2007
Location: Bucks
Posts: 38
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Picked up my new car couple of weeks ago and noticed straight away that had to steer right hand down slightly on all A roads to keep from heading towards kerb. Tried on the motorway so there is minimum camber to affect steering and when wheel is in horizontal position the car slowly drifts to the left and steering adjustment is required. I never noticed this with my D3. Has anyone else noticed this sensitivity to the camber of the road or is it just my car. My wife also noticed this within the first 1/2 mile of driving the car also.
Car was back at the garage to be checked out and technician took it out and had it up on the ramp and was all OK. I have just been out in it to make sure it was not me imagining it and still needs a conscious input to stop drifting to the left. Garage have been good and will take the car in again and let me drive their D4 for comparison but just trying to find out other peoples experience.
Car is on 19 inch wheels
ETA Car runs straight and true when hands off the wheel so tracking seems OK
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2nd Mar 2010 9:23 pm |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26774
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Take it to France for a comparison. 8)
Seriously, I had this on my first D3, and after a geomentry reset, it was fine. When I first got it, it would make my hand ache keeping it straight over a long journey (I have a bad habit of steering with just my left hand)
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2nd Mar 2010 9:49 pm |
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Rex
Member Since: 17 May 2007
Location: Bucks
Posts: 38
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Will do. I am driving down to the alps in a couple of days. 740 miles should break the car in nicely.
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2nd Mar 2010 11:41 pm |
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Rex
Member Since: 17 May 2007
Location: Bucks
Posts: 38
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Back from France now. Car needed to be steered other way slightly in france so I think it is just the camber of the road. Surprised that car like this is so sensitive to the camber of the road. Will have to check toe in or some such measurement.
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27th Mar 2010 4:07 pm |
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daimlermg
Member Since: 31 Jan 2010
Location: N Yorks
Posts: 140
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My Lexus RX400h did this which is why I bought the LR4.
I tested my LR4 yesterday on a few different roads and I can say I drives straight without having to pull on the wheel left or right to compensate for the camber.
I can steer slightly up into the camber ( at a guess about one degree) and the car will drift slowly up the camber with hands off the wheel.
On roads with camber the wrong way it stilll did not drift down the slope
I am going to France at the end of the month so I will know better then. I am away for 8 weeks but if I find a internet connection I will report back. Faultmate MSV-2
500,000 plus miles in RR,s and trying for more without breakdowns this time
Gone Lexus RX400h SE
Past Audi A6 avant Qutro
Toyota Supra
Long line of RR's
Had for 40 years but now gone 1935 Daimler and 1937 MG
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9th Apr 2010 9:42 pm |
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daimlermg
Member Since: 31 Jan 2010
Location: N Yorks
Posts: 140
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Hi Rex
Well i am now in Italy having towed the tinrent all the way and the car is fine , No pulling to the right with or without the tintent on the back. I can go for 50 yards on the motoway with my hands off the wheel and still stay between the white lines. It behaves just the same on the right as the left which makes me very happy as this is why I changed from the Lexus.
I think its time to take yours back to a dealer and tell him its not good enough and show him this thread. Faultmate MSV-2
500,000 plus miles in RR,s and trying for more without breakdowns this time
Gone Lexus RX400h SE
Past Audi A6 avant Qutro
Toyota Supra
Long line of RR's
Had for 40 years but now gone 1935 Daimler and 1937 MG
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1st May 2010 5:53 pm |
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Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 3254
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I had the exact same problem. Took it back twice and at the second attempt it was fixed. Re-alignment is probably the answer.
Bill Wright Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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1st May 2010 7:15 pm |
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simonm
Member Since: 21 May 2010
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 1
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Exactly the same problem for me. Dealer has looked at it twice and reset the alignment and it was still the same. They let me drive another Disco 4 and that was the same too.
If you get this sorted I would be interested to know the cause. At the moment I suspect alignment tolerances are too
lenient from LR. Will post here if the dealer find a fix.
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11th Jun 2010 7:44 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Mine drives straight and does not pull either way, sorry chaps think you need to get the alignment done again and more accuratley. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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11th Jun 2010 8:07 pm |
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mattl
Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
Location: northern ireland
Posts: 7
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Mine does this as well but I can't see how toe in/out adjustments will make any difference. Surely the wheels will just 'centre' when on the move, unless they adjust camber?
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12th Jun 2010 8:52 am |
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daimlermg
Member Since: 31 Jan 2010
Location: N Yorks
Posts: 140
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On my way home now and get the ferry at the weekend after doing 4500 miles on the right ,Still not pulling left or right.
It might be the castor angle that needs adjusting as this gives the car the return to straight ahead effect as well as the camber or toe in.
I had a RR that had the toe in / out only half a degree adrift and it pulled to the right until it was adjusted. Faultmate MSV-2
500,000 plus miles in RR,s and trying for more without breakdowns this time
Gone Lexus RX400h SE
Past Audi A6 avant Qutro
Toyota Supra
Long line of RR's
Had for 40 years but now gone 1935 Daimler and 1937 MG
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16th Jun 2010 7:32 pm |
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shakey
Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
Location: uk
Posts: 15
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Hi,
I'm in the same situation I've had two four wheel alignments at two dealerships(stourbridge and peterborough) the car is still camber sensitive ie on the m6 if the wheel is released it will change lanes (left if the camber is left right if the camber is right).
I'd love to get this fixed but I'm stuck the dealerships now say the car drives fine, LR headoffice don't seem to be able to offer any assistance.
Has anyone who has got this issue sorted got the details of what the dealerships changed during the alignment, it appears the standard landrover 4 wheel alignment does not cure the problem, its also very evident that losts of dealerships DON'T have the software to align a disco 4 (tried 3 local dealerships none had purchased the software just said it wasn't cost effective as so few disco 4 around)
thanks
shakey
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17th Jun 2010 7:39 am |
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biglouie
Member Since: 29 Jan 2008
Location: North Wales
Posts: 20
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Strangely I am now suffering from this since I changed from MTRs to Wrangler F1s.
Its an 06 HSE and the first set of Scorpians lasted only 12k I had to replace them due uneven wear although it drove straight and true. I had a 4 wheel alignment done locally and put the MTRs on and everything went well till I just put on the new tyres. Now it 'drifts' to the left as described.
Perhaps some wheel/tyres combinations have a greater or lesser tendancy to follow the camber!
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17th Jul 2010 5:23 pm |
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biskit
Member Since: 23 Dec 2009
Location: in my Mancave.
Posts: 1376
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My 05 is just the same,Stratstone Bury tried a fix when under warranty, but never got any better thinking of getting some fresh 19inch rubber, i will hope that sorts things
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17th Jul 2010 7:02 pm |
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raftrey
Member Since: 29 Oct 2006
Location: wigan
Posts: 59
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If the car drifts to the left it is likely to have more of a positive castor angle on the OSF than the NSF as was the case with mine for months after warranty work at dealer. I realised the dealer didn't have a clue what to do so i increased the NSR angle very slightly and now drives straight and true!
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17th Jul 2010 9:08 pm |
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