Ecosse
Member Since: 07 Jan 2005
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Having seen some film using "action cams" it got me wondering  The surround camera system obviously outputs to the screen in the dash, but is there some means of "tapping into" it electronically to have it record to some form of solid state recorder  Would be great for off-road action videos 
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Have also been thinking about the possibility of adding a plug in camera for the back of the caravan. Anybody any thoughts on this. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 8th Dec 2009 4:03 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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Russell, do you have the rear only camera or the full range ?
Im interested also in a addon camera.
Pete
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| 8th Dec 2009 8:46 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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I have the 5 cameras Why you got an idea MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 8th Dec 2009 9:45 pm |
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Winger
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Did you know that the cameras record all the time on a loop basis to solid state storage and that, in the event of an accident, the recorded data could be used to prove your own negligence?
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| 8th Dec 2009 9:49 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
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or not MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 8th Dec 2009 9:53 pm |
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MikeS2005
Member Since: 13 Sep 2008
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Hi
I dont see why you couldnt record all the images as I deal with emergency service equipment sector there is a unit that records multiple images but its not cheap all that would have to be done was each camera lead would have to be split and a splitter RCA socket added in if it doesnt already have it.
Because of all the signals and extra cabling you might also need a video amplfication unit to get the picture to stay sharp.
Hope this helps
cheers
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:02 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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Yes Russell i have an idea 
I need to do some more digging about in the wireing diagrams to get my head round a few things first.
There should be a camera module under the left front seat where all the camers wires connect that we can possibily utilise.
The rear camera also connects in the top of the roof at the rear where it goes into a loom for the rear camera which we may be able to use.
To confirm, if you had a camera on the rear of your caravan, you would not need one on the rear of the car looking at the caravan ?
Pete
PS, can you have the cameras active while you are driving forwards ? And if so is there a speed restriction to it ?
Ive thoughts of TV/DVD via the camera module
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:26 pm |
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Ecosse
Member Since: 07 Jan 2005
Location: Grampian, Scotland
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Winger wrote:Did you know that the cameras record all the time on a loop basis to solid state storage and that, in the event of an accident, the recorded data could be used to prove your own negligence?
Sounds like another reason not to go for the surround cameras  I knew that there was a buffer in the main ECU's that recorded speed, braking etc for a few seconds prior to a serious collision, but didn't know precisely what triggered it, nor indeed that the cameras also had a solid state buffer  - any idea on its size (Gb/mins)? and how to play back from it?
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:39 pm |
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thriftwood
Member Since: 27 Sep 2009
Location: Bedfordshire
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Pete
My cameras work moving forwards - not sure if they have a speed limit - if so, I haven't found it yet - but I try to keep looking through the windscreen when travelling (forward!) at speed 
Add-on camera at back of trailer would be even more useful than the standard reversing camera IMHO.
Richard
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:46 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
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If they do record it must be into the Satnav screen where the HD is stored.
I know the new system with the HD does not take dvd's as the old ones and its updated via a dedicated diag port.
but im unsure what info that can be sucked out of the same port.
Pete
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:48 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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Cool, then i think i can come up with some addon using LR parts and a mixture of other bits for a rear caravan camera.
Ill need to do some tests as soon as my car arrives on the 28th to confirm, unless anyone is in York before then and is brave eniough to let me look at there wiring
I recon we can use the rear camera wires for the caravan camera and possibily putting a multi wire relay in there to swap between the 2.
An extra caravan camera socket next to the trailer light sockets.
And i think we can possibile have a switch added next to that so you can flick over to the caravan camera when you plug the lights in.
Pete
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:53 pm |
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thriftwood
Member Since: 27 Sep 2009
Location: Bedfordshire
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8) I might just buy one of those  - now can you do the yellow line overlay as well? 
Richard
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| 8th Dec 2009 10:58 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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I recon the yellow line will be the easy bit
Can anyone provide me in PM a chassis number, i need it to locate parts on Microcat catalouge for the correct model.
It wont get used at any dealers or be publicly shown.
Pete
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| 8th Dec 2009 11:00 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Pete
thanks for that, yes you are right about the connector at the back, it is in the trim at the back of the roof by the top tailgate where a number have mounted LED's. I have already found that and been playig with that. Yes you are right, I would not need the car rear camera if the caravan was on so could use this as the feed to the screen for the caravan camaera, this is what I have been looking at.
As for the cameras, they are supposed to be speed related, but I know they still work upto and in excess of the speed limit 
I am currently at work but can PM you a chassis number later tonight when I get home if you want. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
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D4 camera club
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