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cheap winches good or bad ?
are the cheap champion or t max winches good or bad value for money for them what if occasions / single figure use per year , i was thinking about the 12000lb+ versions whats your opinions ?
1st Oct 2009 8:49 pm
Ken
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Champion 12000lb is a good unit
1st Oct 2009 8:50 pm
DiscoDunc
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i had a t max on my defender and it performed well. I had it for 4 years and never service it Duncan
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1st Oct 2009 8:51 pm
GLYNNE
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Why go for cheap and nasty when you can get a proper job from Mr Bowyer for similar money. Also he it there to back it up with parts & service.
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1st Oct 2009 8:57 pm
Dented Disco
Member Since: 12 Sep 2009
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If it helps you there is nothing wrong with a "cheap" winch as there all made in China now due to production costs even Warn.
There all getting better quality with every year now and Champion is a winch that's good value for money as are Goodwinch sold by Mr Boyer the only difference with his is that Mr Bowyer has them made for him by a company in China called KING ONE (some of the people that made come up winchs) BUT,There made to his requirements mainly the casings that are machined to fit his design of seal for the winch motor helping keep it water proof .The external parts like the in/out lever and drum supports are stainless steel they even come with a water proof solenoid pack
I ran one on a vehicle for a while and was quite impressed with it... there great value for money
PS I don't work for him Honest!
20th Oct 2009 9:22 pm
Stu
Member Since: 08 Feb 2009
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Slightly off topic
When you fit a winch at the front, do you have runners underneath the vehicle to allow you to pull yourself out of mud etc?
Also with all of these winches, it is possible to have them hidden or almost hidden rather than sticking out like the G4 challenge ones?
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20th Oct 2009 9:27 pm
flinty99
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
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Yes you can fit hidden winches. ISTR that CFB had some photo's of how to fit them in his gallery.
And yes the G4 ones do reduce the approch angles as I have found out a few times now For details on the next Kielder Safari click visit the Kielder Safari website
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20th Oct 2009 9:31 pm
wiggs
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This hidden enough for you Stu
Must be well hidden if you didnt see it at Peterborough G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
20th Oct 2009 9:39 pm
Stu
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Wiggs that's the sort of thing I fancy. I did know you had a hidden winch as I know it was the only thing that Jerry Thurston could find of interest about all our cars!
Can you use it to get yourself out of trouble ie pull the car out backwards with runners underneath, I'm assuming that it isn't possible from the picture?D3 HSE MY05 Auto
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20th Oct 2009 10:07 pm
Dented Disco
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I like that winch mount RLD , Just had a look in your gallery how do you get around the number plate being in the way is it removable?
20th Oct 2009 10:15 pm
Stu
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Well when I finally get round to doing a winch, I'll be in touch to get that from you Ray, and probably the Jerry can holders when I sort out a tunisia trip for families!
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20th Oct 2009 10:16 pm
wiggs
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Stu wrote:
Can you use it to get yourself out of trouble ie pull the car out backwards with runners underneath, I'm assuming that it isn't possible from the picture?
As Ray said , yes in an emergency , would be worth a try ..but if you were knee deep in mud , would you wanna crawl around trying to get the winch under the car G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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