None: Spare wheel hoists have been replaced under warranty, unaware if any design changes have been made to the hoist to prevent the same problem occuring again. To mitigate the risk of seizure I would recommend that anyone who is raising or lowering the cable with out a wheel hanging on it puts tension on it.
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Probably the only time that vehicle owners will use the wheel hoist is when they have to use the spare due to a puncture. If you put the wheel with the punctured tyre in the boot and raise the cable without tension on it, when you come lower the cable it may seize.
There is no evidence that a modified hoist has been introduced.
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23rd Jan 2008 10:45 pm
Bushwanderer
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Except that LR - at least in Australia - recommend in their manual that you remove the spare wheel from underneath the car before going off-road.
Peter,
2005 D3 S TDV6 manual.
27th Jan 2008 5:10 am
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Yep, that exactly what happened to me. Punctured tyre placed in boot and winch wound up without tension. This seized the winch and the whole part had to be replaced under warranty, (it's a sealed unit). I can't see if there are any design changes inside, but I certainly won't be winding this up or down without some weight on it!
Winch made by Magal metallifacture (the old AP Driveline) in Lemington Spa.
There engineers are not aware of this problem, no feed back has been received from Land Rover on this issue.
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26th Mar 2008 11:01 pm
simon
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Recently had a puncture and put the removed wheel in the boot.
Wound up the cable with no wheel and it worked fine.
I had a puncture last week, got the spare off ok, took wheel to be repaired.
Tried to put spare back today, cable came down about 9" when I felt it starting to jam. Had to get one of the guys from work to pull on cable whilst I unwound it. Got the job done, but it'd be impossible if you were on your own.As you slide down the banister of life
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8th Apr 2008 4:40 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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I had the same problem recently. I wound the cable up empty after I got a puncture doing the Easter Weekend. When I wound it back out it then 'seized' CarlS removed the hoist took it apart sorted the 'sprung' cable re-assembled the unit and all is fine.
It winds up when empty ok its the unwind empty that appears to be the issue. So from now on as AVE said I will get someone to pull on it as I wind it out.In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
8th Apr 2008 4:54 pm
Ken
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Or get a spare wheel carrier
8th Apr 2008 5:41 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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Ken wrote:
Or get a spare wheel carrier
F that they dent the tail gate In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
8th Apr 2008 5:49 pm
Ken
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they dont dent the tailgate the operator does dont they DG
The winch on the D3 is a posh upmarket one apparently with moulded in wire guides, the cheap one Renault and Ford use are plain bobbins
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8th Apr 2008 8:15 pm
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Mine siezed under these conditions, but not too siezed, as I hung the wheel on the spring on the cable with a pair of clamps, worked the winding nut a bit and it came free. Maybe I was just lucky.Cooper S/Ts, Dynamic 17x7s, Rotronics 3 way battery control, Boab drawers, Polaris camera, Mitch Bros tow, 4x4Intell wheel carrier and cargo barrier, Obie's rear wndow protector, Windcheetah roofrack, Featherlite rooftop tent, Faultmate, Trakmaster Nullabor 17. VK3PR VHF UHF.
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22nd Jul 2009 6:34 am
zetecr
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Same approach worked for me, too. It seemed well stuck at one point, but patient jiggling worked it loose.. Don't give up too early!
20th Nov 2009 7:36 am
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Different type of failure.
Mine would not lift the wheel, but would support wheel.
Suspect winder clutch failed.
Replacement unit 75 UKP, fitting 40 UKP (independent workshop).D3 HSE Diesel Auto 2005 Zambezi Silver.
Only paid about £40 quid ISTR from The Large One and replaced it myself... only about 5 bolts and if I can do it anyone can!As you slide down the banister of life
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