Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Worthing
Posts: 376
I feel like a complete rube . I paid for LRA without an LR extended warranty (£190), on the assumption that someone who would know the car would show up when called. Now it turns out I could have gone to the AA for about a third of that, and other recovery services for even less.
What a load of
14th Jul 2009 8:10 pm
Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
Location: Here and there
Posts: 1645
The majority of the LRA techs came over to the AA and are in silver D3's.
Only when it gets busy or no LR Techs available will you get an AA patrolman and most of them who will be attending will of had some LR/JAG Training to some extent.
There is always a back up too for the AA guys if needing extra help.
I would rather see a professional company like the AA turn up rather than a local garage
14th Jul 2009 8:24 pm
JamesG01
Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Worthing
Posts: 376
Thanks for that clarification, Tawnyowl...I don't feel so bad, now...
found out from someone who just tried to do what you suggested!!!
Oooh, tell me more ??I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
14th Jul 2009 11:55 pm
chesters
Member Since: 03 Oct 2005
Location: The Toon
Posts: 698
Has anyone got the procedure for getting into the mechanism to give it some lube for preventative maintenance, before it seizes up.
Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
15th Jul 2009 7:55 am
the kergan
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Swindon Wiltshire
Posts: 535
didnt know the LR extended warranty had a mechanism that needed some lube I have something to say! It's better to burn out... than to fade away!
15th Jul 2009 8:23 am
JimboD3
Member Since: 23 Mar 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 348
chesters wrote:
Has anyone got the procedure for getting into the mechanism to give it some lube for preventative maintenance, before it seizes up.
What I shall be doing is to open the top tailgate (so you're looking at the number plate lights, with the 'handle' between them), carefully pull off the rubber cover exposing the handle mechanism (metal plate), the grey plastic lump can now be removed (it has retaining lugs on either side) clean out all the crusty crud, making sure that the 'handle' part can move freely (it hinges forwards exposing the microswitch, there are two pieces of spring-steel on the back of the plate which act as a return spring). Once it's all clean and moving freely, I intend giving it all a liberal dosing of somthing.........silicone grease or WD maybe ?
Re-assembly is not quite the same as dis-assembly..........put the rubber cover on the grey plastic lump first, then push the whole assembly back into the rear (number plate light) housing - it will make sense when you look at it.Jim
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15th Jul 2009 8:38 am
nigelc
Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
Location: leicestershire
Posts: 267
The LRA thing really p****** me off. I thought it was worth paying the £190, because you get someone who knows their way round JLR - only time i've called then a couple of years ago, knew all about the coolant sensor problem, and the one who changed the EGR valve on my wife's leased X type also said they would carry and change by the roadside a D3 compressor.
I'll have to see if possible to cash in remaining 9 months as I can get a good deal on Green Flag with my insurance renewal
15th Jul 2009 8:58 am
chesters
Member Since: 03 Oct 2005
Location: The Toon
Posts: 698
Just had it all to bits and found lots of oxidization.
Spent a bit time cleaning and then put it back together.
Here is one pic of the grey lump minus the rubber cover.
Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
15th Jul 2009 6:33 pm
JimboD3
Member Since: 23 Mar 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 348
@ Chesters - , that's it............mine was all crudded up with that white cack - especially around the 'hinge' points for the metal flap.
What do you reckon is the best thing to spray in there to try and stop this from happening again - silicone grease maybe ?Jim
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16th Jul 2009 7:41 am
chesters
Member Since: 03 Oct 2005
Location: The Toon
Posts: 698
I have sprayed some silicone lube in so now it will probably fall to bits knowing my luck.Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
16th Jul 2009 8:04 am
DickyH
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 81
From the picture it looks to me like 'that white cack' is aluminium oxide (aluminium corrosion). Looks far more extensive than you might expect, so I'm guessing that it's directly connected to some nearby steel which is causing it to corrode sacrificially
Considering the bigger picture with reference to the whole LRA/AA thing, should it really be necessary/critical to provide these cars from new with such a service, and again for it to be so essential after warranty? It's nice to have, and I know how valuable it can be, but should it really be the case that it is absolutely necessary to give owners the piece of mind which they clearly don't get in other ways?
The whole ethos/marketing behind this brand is adventure and toughness. Surely it is supposed to be the case that providing the car is well serviced/regularly maintained, it should be capable of going most places and doing many challenging things. Many people seem to have little confidence in the machine to cope with the requirements of their daily lives without the technical support/backup provided by LRA to fall back on, let alone the confidence for a trip to rough or remote areas where this backup may not be available.
The bottom line is that they should be more reliable which would:
a) increase customer satisfaction,
b) almost certainly increase sales (as a result of a)),
c) save on warranty claim costs for LR, and
d) save on the presumably not inconsiderable cost to LR of providing LRA or equivalent cover.
It's a shame, particularly when British manufacturing industry is struggling like it is at the moment.
16th Jul 2009 10:28 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
DickyH whilst you are right in that if the cars were 100% reliable you wouldn't need LRA, but no manufacturer is going to achieve that. All the prestige car companies have this sort of service. What people seem to forget is that in Mondial's day if techs weren't available the local recovery agent (who quite often work with the likes of RAC) would come out to you so that hasn't changed.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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I'd like to see the AA get to a couple of places where LRA reached me when I had my first D3 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
Here in Oz, I had LRA recover literally "Back of Bourke" (ie, in the Outback but on a dual track which fortunately was a "named road"). Then they did a 580km tow (probably not possible in the UK ), 2 nights of motels, and 2 days of rental cars all due to a welded-up EPB. Seems like a pretty good insurance policy to me.Jim Dowell - D4 HSE TDi, 12,000 hydraulic winch & hidden winch mount, MTRs, TyreDog, Traxide 2 x aux battery system, fixed air compressor, Dolium roof rack, MitchHitch.
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. I paid for LRA without an LR extended warranty (£190), on the assumption that someone who would know the car would show up when called. Now it turns out I could have gone to the AA for about a third of that, and other recovery services for even less.
), 2 nights of motels, and 2 days of rental cars all due to a welded-up EPB. Seems like a pretty good insurance policy to me.
