Member Since: 20 May 2007
Location: Karratha
Posts: 146
All singing, all breaking windscreens...
A question for those of you with the all singing and dancing windscreens...the SE and HSE with the light and rain sensors.
Do you find these screens to easily break?
I will have replaced 3 in the last 12 months, all due to small chips that readily and quickly progress from a chip to a full blown crack of upto the full hieght of the screen. The chips can be chips for ages, then one morning I go to the car and there is the crack, or the initial hit is enough to "chip and split", and they don't sound like particually hard hits.
18th Apr 2009 4:32 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72910
I've had to replace 1 screen that had a problem with the heating elements. That then got smacked with a stone on the motorway so hard I thought a brick had fallen off a lorry, left a pit 1cm across. Screen survived 3 weeks incl 1 week offroading in Tunisia without splitting then it got fixed (resin injection) back in the UK. Been fine since.
18th Apr 2009 7:10 am
Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 229
18 months, same screen <*(((<<
18th Apr 2009 8:23 am
catweasel
Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805
a chip no bigger than the tip of a ball point pen (under arrow)
the crack eventually finished 2/3rds across the screen.
if you run a ball point pen across the screen and it catches anywhere LR wont replace it and yes I think they are substandard. had a chip the size of a 10 cent piece in my Commodore for 4 years until I used the sprays to clean it after work
18th Apr 2009 9:15 am
wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1967
I have a couple of pencil-tip-size holes in the top layer of my screen.
Had a larger one fixed when I got the car (4 months ago) and another one a couple of weeks ago, which sat there for a few weeks during the frost period. Had a sticker over that one during the frost though.
Nothing wrong with the screen and the heating in it still works fine as well.
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18th Apr 2009 11:24 am
WayneD
Member Since: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney Darwin ,Singapore, USA, UK and now country NSW
Posts: 531
Not restricted to LR. Got hit 12 months ago while driving the Ocean road in the Audi and although had it plugged I noticed the star is getting bigger. Auto lights and wipers also >Take the road less traveled. Dual battery system.ORS drawers,LR cargo Barrier.ARB Bull bar,side protection bars,Mickey Thompson ATR's 17" rims, Rear wheel carrier, radiator guard TPMS Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch LR RAI Steel Rims , GME UHF, Off Road GPS, Llams (yet to be fitted)
I have found, touch wood, that the element in the heated windscreen helps for me as it actually takes the shock out of a lot of the stone hits and driving on back roads every day and lucky so far.
18th Apr 2009 12:23 pm
Rob Hollonds
Member Since: 23 Nov 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 69
I have lost three windscreens, first was a large stone on Oodnadatta Track that no screen would have survived. But the second was a minor hit and chip close to lower perimeter centre which I thought should not have caused the screen to fail. Third, lower RH perimeter, again a minor impact and crack ran right across driver viewing area. All replaced with genuine LR screens. Yes, I agree, I feel screens are substandard for our conditions and no doubt my insurance company is fed up with the $1,400 replacement cost!!!!MY07 D3, TDV6S; Bull Bar, Cooper S/T's, Dual Battery, UHF, GPS; 03 D2, 94 D1, both departed & 1950 S1 80" going strong. 06 Astra CDX Coupe.
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18th Apr 2009 9:07 pm
eran48
Member Since: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 165
Just busted mine a couple of weeks back. One little pebble and a 12 inch crack magically appeared almost immediately right in front of me - the windscreen must be quite a highly stressed component of the monocoque body. I have to say that I was returning from a camping trip and the roof rack was full - I'd say about 50kgs all up. And we were travelling at 110 km/h at that time.
Given the cost of a genuine LR replacement windscreen, I opted for an aftermarket one. NRMA did the replacement. Replacing the windscreen meant replacing all the sensors as all the sensors are located in a plastic box that is permanently glued to the centre of the windscreen. Can't remove them without destroying them.
An interesting observation - the wipers with the original rain sensors were quite 'aggressive/sensitive' - ie the wipers were too fast. I found that I preferred to, in light rain, to just manually activate the wipers rather than leave them on auto as they were prone to going at maximum speed.
With the replacement windscreen and sensors, the auto activation of the wipers have slowed right down. I found that with 'Rain-X' applied to the windscreen, the degree of activation is about right. It now takes a full downpour to activate full wiper speed. If anything, activation is now a tad too slow but I prefer this to it being too fast.
I am not sure if the light sensor was replaced also ( I thought this was located in the dash?) but there was no difference in operation with this item (ie lights still too slow to come on ).Disco3 SE MY08, Rear lockers, Dual air, Long range tank, Cargo barrier, Rear Wheel carrier, BFG Mud Terrains on steel wheels, Rhino Platform rack, Rhino Aero bars, Traxide/Optima Yellow Top, 'Ever Smiling' TPMS , Rasta Front plate, ECB Nudge Bar, a whole garage full of camping toys....
30th May 2009 10:56 am
Roel
Member Since: 16 Aug 2008
Location: home
Posts: 1215
I have my none heated windscreen still in good shape. I have currently 1 small chip low in the middle.
I think I hit something more substancial dureing the summer as I want to install a heated windscreen.
I first get the wires and button in. Roel
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30th May 2009 11:13 am
rmp
Member Since: 15 Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 73
There are little repair kits you can carry to fix cracks and stars in the field using much the same techniques the professionals use. Quite cheap. Available at Repco, I forget the brand name. They work.--
Robert
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30th May 2009 11:19 am
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Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
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Posts: 21361
I had three windscreens in my merc, they just seemed to crack at the site of anything more than a small bug flying into it....
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30th May 2009 11:34 am
caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
Still on original windscreen after over three years. A couple of chips but haven't run at all. Luck of the draw I suppose.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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31st May 2009 2:37 am
gps-au
Member Since: 14 Apr 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 57
caverD3 wrote:
Still on original windscreen after over three years. A couple of chips but haven't run at all. Luck of the draw I suppose.
LUCKY !!
My first lasted 3 weeks before a road train attack !
One main chip, but the hole was so big I had to fill it.
Saw the bill and nearly died for the OME price .... $1750 and thats a plain "S" model with no sensors etc...
Yeah the insurance paid it..
31st May 2009 6:54 am
~Rich~
Member Since: 16 Mar 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 627
The kit available from Repco is:
UFIXIT Windscreen.
http://www.demsgroup.com.au/?gclid=CL7GpYX95ZoCFQ0ZegodBnIdBg
Works well.
You can buy it online from that site too.
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