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lukesky7

Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53

2005 Discovery 3 4.0 V6 Petrol Base 7 Seat Auto Zermatt Silver

land rover servicing on north shore

Hi
I recently moved to the lower north shore in Sydney and used to use Graham Cooper in St Peters, but i was wondering if anyone had used Alto in St Leonards as that would be the closest garage to our new location.
Also, i am getting warning messages coming up and i cant recall what they all said, but one was that Special Programs wasnt available, EPB problem etc...not much use i guess but after 2 or 3 starts they disappear. seems a common problem...

17th Sep 2012 10:35 pm

garrycol

Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1130

I cannot help with the question but surely the local landie forum www.aulro.com would be able to give you the answers you seek - sure there are a few Aussies here and it is a great site but there are thousands on AULRO.

Cheers

Garry

18th Sep 2012 12:30 am

~Rich~

Member Since: 16 Mar 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 628

2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Fuji White

Where on the North Shore do you live?

I use Ayers Automotive in Brookvale, loan cars free for the first day too.
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18th Sep 2012 12:46 am

caverD3

Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922

2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Fuji White

Alto have been good to me but recently new management introdeced a $25 a day charge for their loaners (I get it at a once off charge) and a 1.5% credit card fee. They are next to the train station if that helps. Major work I would get quotes elsewhere.
Your issue could have a number of causes but the easiest ones to look at are the brake light globes shorting when they fail and the brake switch. Make sure your brake lights are working and then clean the brake switch.

â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.

18th Sep 2012 1:04 am

IndusD4

Member Since: 01 Dec 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 308

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Corris Grey

My car came from Alto, went there for a 6 month check up. I've had no issues with them. Cost of their service looks in line with a post on AULRO with service prices from a Melbourne dealer. I'm happy to take it back there for the annual service which will be soon.

Ron

18th Sep 2012 2:33 am

Calis

Member Since: 10 Sep 2012
Location: Sydney
Posts: 21

2009 Discovery 4 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Alaska White

Only heard good things about Ayers Automotive in Brookvale's work. They are my local and I'll be going there for servicing etc. Ordered a part and picked it up from them yesterday. Was cheaper then what ALTO quoted me which is always a good start.

But I would say that the only two times I've been there I got painted a very negative outlook of the costs of running, repairing and servicing these vehicles. I though this was odd considering that their business is all about looking after these vehicles!

We love our D4 and didn't really need any impending doom stories...lol.

25th Sep 2012 4:43 am

lukesky7

Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53

thanks for all your replies. i was quoted $2000 for full trans flush and when i spoke to brookvale and graeme cooper they both said around $1100 so i think i will going elsewhere for that job

26th Sep 2012 12:51 am

caverD3

Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922

Did you check the brake lights/switch? â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.

26th Sep 2012 2:26 am

lukesky7

Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53

yep - by the time i took in both rear lights had gone and the switch needed replacing, not to mention the starter motor, earth lead and housing. and thats before they have even looked at the trans fluids. i think i am just going to bite the bullet on ALTO and then go to GC for the flush - was quoted around 1100 from Ward which seems reasonable, compared to Ayers and Pete Davies.

26th Sep 2012 3:51 am

caverD3

Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922

Make sure that they use the right ATF. Very important. Best to use ZF stuff. â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.

26th Sep 2012 5:43 am

lukesky7

Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53

Thanks Caver
Picked up my car from Alto and they told me if i wanted to book it in for trans flush that there was no guarantee that it would solve the problem (vibration at 40km/h) and that if it didnt work it actually makes the transmission worse (bearings etc.)then i would have to replace the whole transmission at a cost of around $6500 on top of the flush. he said 7/10 cases it works but there is always the 3 cases where it doesnt. didnt convince me but was concerned that i could end up paying over $8000 for both. was good of him to point this out to me though as he said that they had noticed this happen more often.

26th Sep 2012 8:31 am

caverD3

Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922

Happened to mine and got a recon one from A&B under my extended warranty. $6500 is for recon one. You could try an oil change. rather than a complete flush and see if there is any difference.
Is your vibration only speed related or at gaer change? If only speed related it is drivterain balance issue ( (driv shafts?) â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.

26th Sep 2012 9:16 am

lukesky7

Member Since: 23 Jul 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53

it seems to be at 40km/h but i cant really tell - when the LR master technician was driving it he thought it was the transmission. funny thing is that Ward at GCA couldnt replicate the problem but the LR guy noticed it as soon as i described it to him - it happens when you go over 40 then slow down and then hit 40 again. would a new trans be covered under extended warranty? i have one with Allianz

26th Sep 2012 10:49 am

caverD3

Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922

Yes they recon yours via A&B, they sent me to some auto palce in parra who knew nothing about ZF boxes and I I had to argue. Diagnostics are important but difficult. Driveshafts can give the same sort of result especially the front that is close to the cat and gets hot dying out the CVs.
Difference is if the TC in the trans is at fault it is a judder rather than a vibration. driveshafts give feel like an out of balance wheel but at a higher frequency as they spin faster.
Has the Alto tech driven it yet? Get as many opionions as posible from someone who has experienced different faults.
Mine needs a new front driveshaft as it has vibration at about 70ks more under load. But the front one produces various symptoms but usually speed related.
Since my transmision went I know the difference between a judder and a vibration.
This is why I think that it may not be trans as it is speed related. Trans issues usually relate to judder, fluctuating revs usually under load and gear changes or locking/unlocking of the TC.

Do a search on here under "transmission flush" and see how others have described the symptoms.

â€œThere are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.

26th Sep 2012 11:39 am

IndusD4

Member Since: 01 Dec 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 308

I'll be going to Ayers for the first annual service. Alto quoted $875. On top of that I got a lecture on how only Land Rover approved equipment should be attached to the OBDII port and that independents all go to dealers to have the diagnostics read. Surely not?

21st Nov 2012 1:06 am