NoDo$h
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Just been asked if under the Disability Discrimination Act we are required to make our Motor Policy documentation available in braille.  I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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 20th Oct 2008 2:35 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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 should I assume Road Signs should be in braille also  Duncan
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| 20th Oct 2008 2:37 pm |
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SJR
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Is that why you get the bumping sensation driving over cats eyes. Some sort of subliminal road safety message only understood by the blind drivers on the road!!
All those who have lost fingers drive BMW's as i thought that is why they cannot use the indicators!
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| 20th Oct 2008 2:41 pm |
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Well funny as it may seem, if the policy holder is a company and they employ a blind admin person to run the fleet. Where would you stand.
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| 20th Oct 2008 2:50 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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Oh yeah, good point  Duncan
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| 20th Oct 2008 2:54 pm |
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Not sure it applies to business though.
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:02 pm |
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SJR
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 Good point countrywide
BUT
Is the onus on the supplier to provide the information in Braille, they might only be asked 1 in every million policies.
Or on the Employer of the blind person to ensure they have suitable means of converting all the paperwork to a format that can be 'read' by the blind person. i.e. scan it and voice readback, etc.
My knowledge of the DDA relates to access to heritage buildings and not this side of things, so i am just interested to know how it works in practice!
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:02 pm |
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countrywide
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I have no idea, I wasn't having a go at the jokes by the way, but I did wonder what would happen if it was the case. The country seems so PC now, that it wouldn't surprise me if they did even if it was only 1 in 1M.
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:06 pm |
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NoDo$h
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Fleet? No, retail customer base only, so good point Andy but not one that runs in this instance.
When we stopped laughing I did actually put some thought into this. I've pointed out that we COULD have a scenario where a customer suffers a sudden injury/illness and becomes blind or partially sighted OR where their spouse or legal representative may registered blind.
As we have an "on request" service to comply with DDA, we simply pass the standard document to the RNIB who, for a fee, will send a braille version. We cover the cost, not the requestor. So no need for a pile of braille documents in the corner of the office pending the offchance that we may get a request for one. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:08 pm |
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Alex08
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Our University Equality bods keep asking why we don't have our quota of visually impaired students. Seeing as we are a dental school, I think we should offer to let them be the patients for these students they wish us to admit ...
But then the electronic patient record would also have to be available in Braille as would the colour chart for the crowns, etc.
Thankfully there are exceptions to the legislation.......
edit - we also had braille signs put up throughout the hospital for the visually impaired to follow - except no one seemed to realise that Braille has to be read flat on a desk - if it is on a wall sign, then first the visually impaired person has to find the sign they can't see and don't know is there, and then they have great difficulty reading it!
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:09 pm |
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DG
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DDA applies to any services that any company \ organisation provides. It basically means you must not treat someone with a disability any less favourable than any other member of the public. You only have to make 'reasonable adjustments' though  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:12 pm |
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SJR
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NoDo$h wrote:As we have an "on request" service to comply with DDA, we simply pass the standard document to the RNIB who, for a fee, will send a braille version. We cover the cost, not the requestor. So no need for a pile of braille documents in the corner of the office pending the offchance that we may get a request for one.
NoDo$h 
That information might be extemely useful to me at some point, probably sooner rather than later - Do the RNIB offer this service to anyone!
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:14 pm |
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Ken
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DG wrote:DDA applies to any services that any company \ organisation provides. It basically must not treat someone with a disability any less favourable than any other member of the public. You only have to make 'reasonable adjustments' though
I'll send Quanta & Chester AKA Furballs 1 & 2 to make reasonable adjustments if you want
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:17 pm |
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adam
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Once in an interview years ago, Ray Charles claimed to ride a motor bike by listening to the sound of his mates engine tone and shouted instructions
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:20 pm |
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SJR
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Was his mate Stevie Wonder
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| 20th Oct 2008 3:22 pm |
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