Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14377
Why shouldn't I buy a D4?
So we recently sold my daughter's D3 and now regret it, and I keep looking at chopping in my L663 Defender and buying a Euro 6 D4.
So the question is, why shouldn't I buy a D4?
The obvious being crank snap risk but what else......?New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
4th Oct 2024 7:15 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2812
Errrrrr.
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Nope, can't think of anything.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
4th Oct 2024 7:32 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73075
Go for it.
Says he with a Skoda.
4th Oct 2024 8:13 pm
GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4695
You’ll be depressed at what the Defender is worth
I’ve just gone the other way again. Just bought a P400 110 and now selling the trusty D4 😢
I do wonder why I’m doing it again but there we are
4th Oct 2024 8:32 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2916
Can't the two of you do a car swap on a yearly basis?Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
4th Oct 2024 8:35 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73075
Not swapping Skippy.
4th Oct 2024 8:36 pm
Naki Blake
Member Since: 31 Dec 2021
Location: Taranaki
Posts: 310
Buy a petrol D4 (Jap import).
4th Oct 2024 8:56 pm
GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4695
DSL wrote:
Not swapping Skippy.
Thought you’d be glad it was being used as your never home
4th Oct 2024 9:26 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2812
Naki Blake wrote:
Buy a petrol D4 (Jap import).
Not Euro 6 I expect.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
4th Oct 2024 10:49 pm
Naki Blake
Member Since: 31 Dec 2021
Location: Taranaki
Posts: 310
Yeah sorry, we don't have those strict emission rules in New Zealand.
4th Oct 2024 11:21 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14377
Nasher wrote:
Naki Blake wrote:
Buy a petrol D4 (Jap import).
Not Euro 6 I expect.
It's actually to do with age, the youngest is 12 years old, the gearbox - its 6 speed and to some extent the difference in cost. I can get a very nice low mileage HSE Lux with full history for under £20k where as a Jap V8 is nearly £30k. Even if I need a new engine I'm still there or thee about.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
5th Oct 2024 9:07 am
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1729
sounds like you've already talked yourself into it...... you know you want to
I still miss my 2012MY D4, probably the only car Ive ever regretted selling but my confidence and budget dont stretch to a D4 and the risk of the crank snapping sadly.2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
7th Oct 2024 6:59 am
desv8
Member Since: 01 May 2020
Location: CHELTENHAM
Posts: 137
IYou read a lot about snapped crankshaft issues and yet there are 000's that have no issues.
Are you just unlucky if the crankshaft snaps or is it inevitable in people's opinion.
I read a lot go just after belt change? Is it a possibility the belts are over tensioned
Just. Curious on opinions.
7th Oct 2024 7:03 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6744
Sounds like you’ve got unresolved feelings for your ex…. vehicle.
Either stop pining forever or make your move and resolve the situation.
7th Oct 2024 8:50 pm
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1729
desv8 wrote:
IYou read a lot about snapped crankshaft issues and yet there are 000's that have no issues.
Are you just unlucky if the crankshaft snaps or is it inevitable in people's opinion.
I read a lot go just after belt change? Is it a possibility the belts are over tensioned
Just. Curious on opinions.
I think it does largely come down to luck, given the number of D4's sold the % that suffer crank failure seems very small.
Ive just got a 17 plate Disco Sport with the ingeniboom engine which so far is running fine at 80k miles, but my view now is the same as with the crankshafts. The % of failures compared to numbers of JLR cars sold with the same engine is low (all be it higher in numbers that the D4 possibly)2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
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