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Darryl
 


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Jacking up preferences

Probably been discussed a lot but just thought I’d get opinions as I’ve Got some wheels and tyres to change over soon , The local garage I use recommends lowering the suspension and holding down till it’s locked in access hight then jacking up from there so they are told by some local landrover guru that uses them, What’s thoughts on this ? I realise it just takes more jacking and effort if left as is in normal hight but is the lowering and locking the best way to go as recommended by these ? Seems when you use different tyre places they have different ways and options when it comes to the Disco .
  
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rrhool
 


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Starting in access height makes it very much harder! My preferred method is to roll front or back up ramps, Then lift one wheel at a time from under the suspension arm (with a bit of wood to protect it).
The car will try to re level, but it tends to just lift the wheel an inch higher.
Never get under the car without axle stands in place.
 Richard


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Post #237732614th Sep 2024 9:59 am
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itsaguything
 


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I must agree. “locking” in access mode does not inhibit the suspension from “expanding” should the vehicle be lifted. (clearly written in the workshop manual). “Locking” (actually referred to as CRAWL mode merely allows the vehicle to be driven at low speed in “access height”. (if memory serves, < 40 km/hr?)

In fact, placing the vehicle in “off-road”, then invoking “additional lift in extended mode” is interesting. That way, no further “expansion” of the suspension is accomplished whilst jacking the vehicle. (I keep a 2X4 in the boot for the purpose of showing this feature off, manually)

As I understand it, “extended mode” is a reactive operation only invoked if the vehicle is moving. So, it strikes me as odd that I can invoke “additional lift” when stationary… but I can.


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AdamB
 


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Off road height then pull the fuse so it doesn't try to level for me. Has always felt safer, always use axle stands regardless of what I'm doing.
  
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itsaguything
 


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Agreed. Even just using an axle stand when lifting just one corner.
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rrhool
 


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I may have misunderstood your actual question. Are you jacking up yourself, or are you asking about how the garage should do it?
If the garage lifts the whole car on a 2 poster, it doesn't matter what height the car starts at, it will probably drop to the lowest height once it's put back down again. Just start the engine and select normal height, it'll sort itself out just fine.
 Richard


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skunk38
 


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If you're doing one at a time, this method works -

https://youtu.be/4y70IC6VJDs?si=fFMaaD7EzcoDzWwr

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Darryl
 


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Appreciate replies, Yes I’m asking how the garage should be doing it , as I’ve got more than one and tyres also involved will be tyre garage doing it, Just so many different options even with the tyre garages, They are all ok with your average motor but when you take a landrover in with air suspension it’s a different story, They all seem to have different opinions.
  
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stick
 


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I have always done it by putting in off road height and having a door open. I believe that is what the book recommends.
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M3DPO
 


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Correct!- beware of them jacking under the suspension air reservoir.
 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
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Darryl
 


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Yes I’ve also had experience of a garage jacking up under the compressor on my old D3 Big Cry Some of the folk at tyre places leave a lot to be desired Rolling Eyes
  
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Agreed about tyre shops, I had the same on the D4.
Tried to deny it but luckily I’d applied Lanoguard the week before.
It was very hard to argue with the jack pad imprint on the tank!


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AdamB wrote:
Off road height then pull the fuse so it doesn't try to level for me. Has always felt safer, always use axle stands regardless of what I'm doing.


Must confess do the same , along with applying the handbrake , was surprised when re inserting the F26 fuse that it drops very quickly

Plus 1 about the axle stands Thumbs Up
  

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BAZ8046 wrote:
Agreed about tyre shops, I had the same on the D4.
Tried to deny it but luckily I’d applied Lanoguard the week before.
It was very hard to argue with the jack pad imprint on the tank!


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Now that’s what u call CSI Rolling with laughter

Hope there wasn’t any damage done
   
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