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TheGreenMachine
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Aintree GreenDiscovery 4
Close shave

Driving to work Monday morning after a weekend of green laning, and the front left wheel disintegrated! Shearing all the bolts.

Luckily no one was hurt, except my bank balance to get highways England to remove the car; I was in the fast lane.

Not sure whether or not to buy another 20" and a new tyre, or bite the bullet and fit some 18"s with a 60 or 65 side profile.

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n laning, and the front left wheel disintegrated!
  
Post #237138418th Jun 2024 8:46 pm
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Moo
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Ukraine 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

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Genuine wheels?
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TheGreenMachine
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Aintree GreenDiscovery 4

Yup

Tyres were fitted by previous owner and are 275/45/20, could possibly be part of the problem.
  
Post #237138618th Jun 2024 9:11 pm
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1784
 


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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

Wheel spacer studs made from chinesium sheared off and the wheel grinded against brake disc until it came apart?
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Post #237138718th Jun 2024 9:12 pm
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TheGreenMachine
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Aintree GreenDiscovery 4

It's a possibility but they are Terrfirma, which are a trusted brand here in the UK.
  
Post #237138818th Jun 2024 9:14 pm
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KPTV8
 


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Scotland 2010 Discovery 4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Nara BronzeDiscovery 4

Apologies if this is naive.
I've so often found wheel nuts tightnened HORRIBLY over ANYTHING LIKE a sensible torque.
Sometimes I've wondered do studs sometimes shear for this reason ?
  
Post #237139018th Jun 2024 9:33 pm
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DG
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TheGreenMachine wrote:
Yup

Tyres were fitted by previous owner and are 275/45/20, could possibly be part of the problem.


Confused Not sure they are OEM wheels tbh/ I don't recognise them.
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Gareth
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I think they are the diamond cut version of the wheels my D4 had, so look genuine to me. Possibly a stone trapped in the calliper has cut through the rim first? Then the wheel split and carnage ensued! Luckily nobody hurt.
  
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RRSTDV8
 


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Is it not the Landmark alloy?

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/vplaw0002-wheel.html
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Post #237139919th Jun 2024 6:48 am
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pjm-84
 


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Are they spacers? Looks like sheared bolts and a few hung on, finally letting go with devastating consequences
  
Post #237140019th Jun 2024 7:16 am
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DSL
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Is it not the Landmark alloy?

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/vplaw0002-wheel.html


What I thought.
   
Post #237140219th Jun 2024 7:20 am
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Worms
 


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1784 wrote:
Wheel spacer studs made from chinesium sheared off and the wheel grinded against brake disc until it came apart?


That picture through the wheel certainly makes it look like the disc has ground through the wheel, and the spacer wheel studs have clearly sheared at some point, while the factory studs have remained in place.
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Post #237140719th Jun 2024 8:36 am
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pjm-84
 


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Spacer.....uck.... whip those off quick
  
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Gareth
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Another things to note. The remains of the sheared off wheel rim, shows a lot of wear and pitting on the tyre bead seating. Looks like the tyre was scrubbing on its seating.
  
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Nasher
 


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pjm-84 wrote:
Spacer.....uck.... whip those off quick


My thoughts exactly.

can't specifically blame them on this, but looking at a car with a known weak spot in terms of front wheel bearings, why people think it's a good idea to fit them I don't know.
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