Member Since: 10 Jul 2024
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 6
GAP IID VS XLIFT VS EASYLIFT?
I recently bought a 2005 V8 Disco3 and do the occasional back country trip into some remote parts of the South Island in NZ. What worries me is a dumb suspension sensor or valve block failure failure leaving us stranded a few days walk from help.
Has anyone got any real world experience of getting suspension issues sorted out while on the road with probably zero phone coverage.
Of the suspension controllers out there do the XLIFT or EASYLIFT allow you to over-ride ride height when the LandRover says no and is throwing up all sorts of error codes that would normally disable the suspension and put you on the bump stops.
12th Jul 2024 8:11 am
Sidestick
Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
Location: Rome
Posts: 2308
Hi from the other side of the world...
I usually bring with me the Gap iidTool for "any" type of possible issues (suspension included),
and i also have on board a little bag with:
- some 60 Amps fuses and at least one compressor relay
- a spare suspension compressor (check which one is fitted on your car Hitachi or AMK )
- all the 3 valve blocks
- all 4 ride level sensors (they are all different )
- at least 2 push-in fitting joint (we have on board 2 different size, from memory 6 and 8 mm but double check it ) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263052673362
- a printed section relative to air suspension and wiring from workshop manual.
NOTE: Easy lift & X-lifter can resolve just few "wiring" issues
Here is my thought - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT
12th Jul 2024 12:16 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 4876
Bring a spare brake light switch which you should always keep in the glove box anyway, as well as a full selection of fuses and a diagnostic tool (GAP IID)
The other thing that is worth mentioning here is to familiarise yourself with the location of the suppression resistor on the right side of the transmission. It very rarely fails, but if it does fuse 30 in the BJB will blow. (Transmission) You're car will not start and you will be locked out of the shifter and the handbrake! ( DTC "transmission control module") Replacement fuses will just keep blowing!
You don't absolutely need to carry a spare resistor, disconnecting the blown one and then replacing the fuse will resurrect the car again! It's rare for it to happen, but every owner needs to be aware of it especially if you're off the communication grid and in the wilderness with no hope of assistance!
The resistor which looks like a relay sits on a bracket above the shifter cable and can be accessed once the under tray is removed.
Another little gem from LR
Resistor part No' NNW502820yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
12th Jul 2024 3:14 pm
bucket-racer
Member Since: 10 Jul 2024
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 6
Great tips, thanks. So it looks like if a valve block fails the aftermarket suspension controllers are not going to be any help. Anyone tried having a parallel plumbing system with some manual valves so that you can directly pump up individual struts if needed and then isolate again to keep them pumped up.
12th Jul 2024 9:37 pm
Sidestick
Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
Location: Rome
Posts: 2308
anyway the air suspension system if well maintained is pretty reliable (have a look about: silica dryer and compressor inlet filter as well as delivery valve) - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT
12th Jul 2024 10:10 pm
Naki Blake
Member Since: 31 Dec 2021
Location: Taranaki
Posts: 259
Kia ora from the Naki
I brought a GAP IID BT. I couldn't find anyone in NZ selling them but got mine from this company in Australia
Cost me about $1000 AUD, but I have easily got my money back.
I also had my Hitachi compressor exhaust valve fail at about 150,000km. I got a rebuild kit from UK from 4x4airseals.com. They have really good tutorials on YouTube. I rebuilt mine as a spare but brought a brand new compressor and fitted that. I went with Dunlop brand, made in England (direct replacement for the Hitachi and has been trouble free. It was far cheaper to by online and sent over from UK than buying in New Zealand.
Also have a spare brake light switch in the glovebox.
Cheers Blake
12th Jul 2024 11:20 pm
pwheeldon
Member Since: 15 Jan 2020
Location: West Yorks
Posts: 1461
As mentioned get the IID before the others as it will, in some scenarios, allow you to raise the suspension using the valve test. Servicing the compressor before you get an issue is a good call too. You can also T into the suspension airline at each strut and fit a Schraeder valve which also allows you to raise each corner if there's an issue with the valve. Xlifter does stop the suspension dropping for unrelated faults, eg ABS fault, which is also handy.Discovery 4 GS 2009 Auto Stornoway Grey
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13th Jul 2024 12:05 pm
loanrangie
Member Since: 18 Jun 2017
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 650
I have a gap toll and a Llams suspension controller, i have found when i've had the occasional bump stop ride that with Llams i can still raise the suspension to get off the bumpstops.
14th Jul 2024 2:45 am
bucket-racer
Member Since: 10 Jul 2024
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 6
I think the schrader valve in each corner sounds like the most fool proof way of getting going again quickly. Good idea, thanks
14th Jul 2024 6:08 am
pwheeldon
Member Since: 15 Jan 2020
Location: West Yorks
Posts: 1461
Id still HIGHLY recommend getting a GAP IID as well, for all the other issues, trust me in the long run it'll pay for itself.Discovery 4 GS 2009 Auto Stornoway Grey
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