Member Since: 08 Mar 2024
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Timing Position
Hello, i have a thread going for another issue which i think I’ve resolved but!
Say one stupidly removed the timing belt before locking the flywheel and stupidly moved the crankshaft. How would one ensure it’s correctly timed.
I taken the starter motor off to just check how many holes there is and theres 4 i think i counted. So how would i know which one to use for the correct timing? The car starts but misfires on one side (drivers) and i think its down to the timing being off or i at least want to rule it out by checking.
I’ve swapped injectors and the problem remained on that side.
I don’t know if there’s anywhere on the flywheel or crank pulley that would indicate TDC for cylinder 1 would there?
I get its a stupid move to make but i need to know how i can now retime it but the fact theres at least 3 holes in the flywheel is really annoying
8th Apr 2024 6:45 pm
Jimbob42
Member Since: 23 Mar 2022
Location: Leicester
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I’m sure the timing hole is stepped back slightly, as in this picture.
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8th Apr 2024 8:40 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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There is 1 hole in the flexplate that has 2 sides "flattened"
This is the correct timing hole
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Any holes that are perfectly round are TC bolts or balance drillings My D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 08 Mar 2024
Location: Manchester
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Hmm ok I’ll have a look again tomorrow and try and measure which hole is set back a bit more. Yeah I shouldn’t have done what i did but surely a nice mark on the metal wouldn’t have been too much to do from the engineers 🤦♂️
Thanks mate
8th Apr 2024 9:40 pm
Discobob!!!
Member Since: 08 Mar 2024
Location: Manchester
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
There is 1 hole in the flexplate that has 2 sides "flattened"
This is the correct timing hole
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Any holes that are perfectly round are TC bolts or balance drillings
Yes I actually seen one that looked different to the others! Perfect thanks mate
8th Apr 2024 9:43 pm
Discobob!!!
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Location: Manchester
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Ok found the right one and it was the one i put the crank lock in last time because i can see the slight marks on it which are still fresh so thanks for confirming.
Going to the front and locking the cams, it seems the pin on the exhaust side is really loose compared to the other side. Do the cam pins have to go all the way into the head? Or just enough to lock the pulley?
If they’re supposed to go all the way in then I’ve maybe F-ed the timing. They do go in but id expect them to go in further and be a bit tighter.
Cheers Bob
11th Apr 2024 6:28 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
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They can be a bit tight on one side or other, but if you try to move the offending pulley fractionally the pin should go in. And yes, they need to be straight and fully home, but if you're that close I doubt it's a timing issue.
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11th Apr 2024 9:00 pm
Discobob!!!
Member Since: 08 Mar 2024
Location: Manchester
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Thank you everyone found the pin holes and all 3 aligned and then again after 2 rotations so all good on that front.
Hasn’t resolved the problem but ive got another thread about that
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