So I thought I'd give the Icemaiden a blow out before winter is upon us. Went to run the FBH via the IID & got E7 error the first time around. Second time it fired up albeit a bit smoky. I thought i'd use the WTT software to run the burner manually for longer to burn off the excess diesel. However, I can connect to the FBH but when I click parking heater in the control nothing more happens. The kit use to work fine on the D3 with 2.14. I see that 2.61 is recommended for a D4 so tried that but no difference.
Any ideas?
Cheers n Gone Nick MY16 D4 Landmark SDV6 (The Ice Maiden)
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Just following up my own thread here. Since posting I've also purchased a breakout lead & tried Robbies method of connection with the loom in place & using probe pins. I've tried all versions of WTT up & including 3.6. I can connect in every instance, but not start the FBH with WTT. I note that Robbies test was on a MY13, is there something different about a MY16 that prevents this method of test from working?
Cheers n Gone Nick MY16 D4 Landmark SDV6 (The Ice Maiden)
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MY08 D3 HSE Stornoway (Miss Moneypit) The money tree withered......
11th Oct 2023 11:12 am
Bracechenko
Member Since: 29 Jun 2021
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 183
Hi Skagg,
Not sure if this helps but when I run diagnostics on WTT, I use the Auxiliary Heater program and not the Parking Heater program. Not sure if that makes any difference for you?
I gave in up the end after trying various combinations. I then remembered I could trigger it through the manual timer which was enough to clear the FBH. Now it runs clean when either manually started or automatically.. still unable to start it using the WTT SW though.
Cheers n Gone NickMY16 D4 Landmark SDV6 (The Ice Maiden)
Uncle Ray's spare wheel protector
MY08 D3 HSE Stornoway (Miss Moneypit) The money tree withered......
29th Nov 2023 7:02 pm
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 394
Glad yours is working. I'm stumped with mine at the moment - works fine on the IID tool and also with the WTT link. It just doesn't seem to want to work on its own! It did fire up one morning in October, but not since then. I've ordered up a remote switch in the hope that I can manually start it on these cold mornings.Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
29th Nov 2023 7:31 pm
Bracechenko
Member Since: 29 Jun 2021
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 183
So here's something that doesn't seem to appear too often but it's an absolute verified fact.... the FBH only attempts to fire automatically if you've put the car heating on.
Honestly, it's true! I've seen someone else post this before also and I've confirmed it on my vehicle but for some reason it's not well known and not mentioned in the literature. Perhaps it's model or year specific but my D3 is MY07 and this is 100% the case.
If you still don't believe be, plug in your IID tool, open live values for auxiliary heater for things like glow plug, fuel pump and water pump etc... you'll see that they remain off until you activate the climate controls in the car (requesting heat) and then it gets a signal to fire.
Of course, this only works assuming the well known criteria of 5 degrees or less, not on reserve fuel is in place etc etc.
29th Nov 2023 8:08 pm
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 394
I always understood that it was the A/C that had to be on, or at least on the eco setting. Not that this would be my issue - living in the frozen north, there are very few times when the heating is not on! Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
29th Nov 2023 10:05 pm
Raf Verjans
Member Since: 14 Jan 2022
Location: Bilzen
Posts: 13
FBH won't fire-up when starting the car
Hi all
Tried with my IID: works fine - tried with WTT-software: fault given is 88h.
Took it to a Webasto-dealer: apparently nothing can be done for a WTT V, because it's exclusively for LR-dealers. He's unable to read faultcodes an spare parts for this particular device are unavailable.
Tank is full.
I'm a bit out of options here and I can't find a thread that deals with this issue.
Any advice would be welcome !
30th Nov 2023 10:39 am
Bracechenko
Member Since: 29 Jun 2021
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 183
Worms wrote:
I always understood that it was the A/C that had to be on, or at least on the eco setting. Not that this would be my issue - living in the frozen north, there are very few times when the heating is not on!
The reason that this always caught me out is that I don't bother putting the heating on until the engine is warm as what's the point!? Well, the engine rarely got warm tootling around town without the FBH assisting and I've not long learned that the FBH doesn't fire without the heating on FFS!
30th Nov 2023 10:46 am
Bracechenko
Member Since: 29 Jun 2021
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 183
Re: FBH won't fire-up when starting the car
Raf Verjans wrote:
Hi all
Tried with my IID: works fine - tried with WTT-software: fault given is 88h.
Took it to a Webasto-dealer: apparently nothing can be done for a WTT V, because it's exclusively for LR-dealers. He's unable to read faultcodes an spare parts for this particular device are unavailable.
Tank is full.
I'm a bit out of options here and I can't find a thread that deals with this issue.
Plenty of good info in the link above and many threads on this forum for the FBH including servicing guides which I would search for.
Best of luck
Brace
30th Nov 2023 10:48 am
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 394
Bracechenko wrote:
Worms wrote:
I always understood that it was the A/C that had to be on, or at least on the eco setting. Not that this would be my issue - living in the frozen north, there are very few times when the heating is not on!
The reason that this always caught me out is that I don't bother putting the heating on until the engine is warm as what's the point!? Well, the engine rarely got warm tootling around town without the FBH assisting and I've not long learned that the FBH doesn't fire without the heating on FFS!
Moving to the D3 from the FL2, I am used to pressing the "Prog" button whenever it is properly cold, as that switched on the electric boost heater which LR introduced in place of the Webasto. So the concept of the car needing to request heat was already ingrained! Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
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