Member Since: 08 Sep 2020
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Towing on slop
Hi all
Tried towing 3.5 tonne trailer few days ago on site that had a sloppy incline entrance. Mud ruts mode. Low range. 2nd gear. Winter tyres.
The car just couldn’t pull the weight it was sliding etc
Had to winch the lot out and give up.
I’m wondering was this just lack of knowledge or should I have been finding it easy to do?
Maybe off road tyres were the solution?
Or the car reached its limits in general?
The slope wasn’t very steep. Maybe 4 foot incline over a 4 meter long distance. Just very sloppy wet grass.
A good run wasn’t really an option as there was a slope to the left and a hotel wall at the bottom so had to go slow and have full control
Solution may be to add grass mats as requirement to customer for good access. Or off road tyres. Or my method of driving?
Thanks I’m advanceDisco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
Buckley, North Wales
11th Dec 2021 4:08 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
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Plenty of stories about wet grass or 'Green Ice' as it's been called on here. One recently with car stuck at the bottom of the garden.
No, there really isn't much you can do. The discovery is at a disadvantage from the beginning, weighing nearly 3 tonnes.Richard
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11th Dec 2021 4:24 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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Sounds like laws of physics took over. You could possibly have turned off the DSC to enable a little more power to get to the wheels, but it sounds like the limit of grip was met.
11th Dec 2021 4:24 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Agreed. When there’s no grip there’s no grip, to quote a wise old(ish) sage here.
11th Dec 2021 4:26 pm
PROFSR G
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Get a grip DSL yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Dec 2021 4:40 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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These puns are truely a slippery slope.
11th Dec 2021 4:54 pm
classic kev
Member Since: 12 Feb 2021
Location: Mold
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Green ice is the kiss of death. Once you break traction and cease forward momentum you need a plan "B". If there is a bit of wiggle room, more speed is the key. If it is tight or there is a cross fall that will see you on a gate post, winch/tow out is probably safest but doesn't mean you can't or won't slide sideways.
Waffle boards might be useful but can be awkward and weigh a ton when clogged with wet mud and grass.
Mud tyres might help but you need to be able to spin them up to keep the tread clear but even mud tyres won't guarantee escape, also, mud tyres on a wet road need to be treated with care. HTH.
11th Dec 2021 5:04 pm
classic kev
Member Since: 12 Feb 2021
Location: Mold
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Just for laughs, I know I wasn't towing a trailer but this was some of the deepest mud and ruts I've ever driven. This was my old RRC strutting it's stuff
11th Dec 2021 5:13 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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It’s so much easier without any grass. Or mud.
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I miss those days.
11th Dec 2021 5:43 pm
classic kev
Member Since: 12 Feb 2021
Location: Mold
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DSL, you’re so right! I too miss the good old days of getting out and about on green lanes and the odd pay and play. Many lanes have been closed and others tro’d or restricted which is such a shame. But… the memories, nobody can take them away.
11th Dec 2021 5:52 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Agreed.
11th Dec 2021 5:58 pm
PROFSR G
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DSL wrote:
These puns are truely a slippery slope.
Yes I know, I'm on a gradient in coming to terms with it, Anyway the grass is always greener on the other side Del. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Dec 2021 7:13 pm
MrBrain
Member Since: 12 Mar 2014
Location: bucks
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Winter tyres a definate no as they clog to quickly and I think the sidewalls are too stiff. But I would think muds with reduced pressure might even have struggled. Sounds like a ground anchor and winch job.
12th Dec 2021 8:50 am
fredouille
Member Since: 12 Oct 2010
Location: BORDEAUX
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No magic tips here, but deflate tires as much as possible would be my choice
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