Member Since: 09 May 2021
Location: Caithness
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The red wire
Hi all,
When installing a remote FBH fob (the eBay £75 one, but likely most others too) on my 05 D3, do I cut the red wire and connect it only to the receiver, or leave it’s connection to the car intact and splice the receiver in as well? Is it the red wire from the car that carries the fire signal for faster warm up on cold days, or was it only there for the later deleted functions?
Spliced at the moment, had an initial fire up (certainly fans, I was too busy tidying cables to see any smoke and don’t remember noticing heat) for about 3 minutes on first install, then shut down and hasn’t fired again since, though the temperature is still too high for it to automatically fire up so I may be waiting for winter to kick in. Just thought I’d ask about the red wire while I wait
Cheers
ShealesyD4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
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15th Nov 2021 1:57 pm
Shealesy
Member Since: 09 May 2021
Location: Caithness
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Seemingly the cars not long after mine had no red wire at all, so if I remove it from the connection to car it stands as good a chance of any as working? At the moment I see it in the fault codes as “vehicle config error” or something along those lines (can’t remember the fault code).D4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
2x Colliewobbles and a Kelpie
15th Nov 2021 2:07 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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My first thought was “it’s a bit early but if you insist”, then saw it was red wire!
15th Nov 2021 2:19 pm
Shealesy
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My typing might come across like that at times, something to do with the 3 months old hanging off the other arm. Also the reason for the occasional Where’s my sleep gone? Good job he’s cute.D4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
2x Colliewobbles and a Kelpie
15th Nov 2021 2:51 pm
Lee Trinder
Member Since: 12 Aug 2018
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Hi there, I have an 07 plate and mine doesn’t have the red wire, I’m sure I remember fitting a wire with a pin into where the red wire should be. I then spliced into the headlight for the signal to start the heater from the third button on the key.
Hope that makes sense.
Lee.
15th Nov 2021 5:11 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10697
It doesn’t matter if you splice or join.
If it’s working, leave it.
The car communicates with different wires
15th Nov 2021 5:15 pm
Shealesy
Member Since: 09 May 2021
Location: Caithness
Posts: 237
So my vehicle config error probably comes from something else then? As it last stood, the FBH wasn’t working, but it’s only been borderline cold enough at each end of the day
I might put the battery back in tomorrow and play around with the FBH, something to do while waiting for the TCCM to arrive. It might even be cold enough for it to fire, at least early morning or after sunset. See if I can get the proper code for the heater error in the meantime.D4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
2x Colliewobbles and a Kelpie
15th Nov 2021 6:36 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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I don’t know what error your talking about. Maybe post further details
The remote should fire it at any temperature.
Let it run for at least 3 minutes if not more.
The battery disconnect should be reset it
15th Nov 2021 7:04 pm
Shealesy
Member Since: 09 May 2021
Location: Caithness
Posts: 237
Last time it ran was when I first installed the fob and receiver. FBH came to life on the first click of the fob but shut down again within a few minutes, was quite a while ago and I put it down to ambient temperature. Any time I tried after that, fuse out overnight etc to reset, it would log an error in the cars OBD system that was along the lines of “vehicle config error” or maybe “burner config error” which is then clear and try again. The error was always in the auxiliary heater module codes, not unrelated.
I’ll get hooked up again tomorrow and see what happens, get the proper error code etc. and see if anything different occurs now the temperature is down.
Should be well reset by now, battery has been out for over a week. Hoping that alone is not going to throw up further gremlins!
CheersD4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
2x Colliewobbles and a Kelpie
15th Nov 2021 7:19 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10697
I seam to recall if the climate is off when you run the fbh self test procedure on the gap iid, you do get an E error code
15th Nov 2021 8:00 pm
Shealesy
Member Since: 09 May 2021
Location: Caithness
Posts: 237
Solution:
Yes, disconnect the red wire from the rest of the car (leaving it connected the remote receiver and fbh obviously).D4 XS Commercial - MY16 - Corris Grey
D3 HSE - MY05 - Java black - Retired
Vauxhall Insignia Country Tourer - PX’d, in a poorly way
GAP IIDBT G3
2x Colliewobbles and a Kelpie
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