Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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I knew this trip was going too smoothly. Currently on Barra in the Outer Hebrides, and had the dreaded Restricted Performance message today. Reset it a couple of times and the third time a check engine light came on and stayed on. I don’t have a diagnostic tool.
No unusual noises from the car, all fluid levels look fine. Performance is normal until the message comes up, then quite restricted to the point that I would not want to be on a motorway.
However, I need to get it home to Teesside on Saturday, with a full load of family and gear. Needless to say, this is all making me a bit twitchy.
Thoughts from the collective?
Find a specialist in Oban or Glasgow that by some miracle might be able to look at it on Saturday afternoon?
Or maybe a kind member with an IID tool that could scan it and at least let us determine if it is minor or in need of immediate repair before going any further?
Either way, it’s parked until Sat now, but it’s going to be on my mind for the rest of the holiday. 🙁
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 2nd Aug 2021 7:20 pm |
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G3Z
Member Since: 16 Dec 2018
Location: South Wales
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A cheap code reader in the glove box is a must. Once you get home, order an Autel code reader and at least you can reset and clear things to get you home.
Hopefully a member local to you can pop across and read your codes for you  Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.
2007 Disco 3 GS TDV6 Manual
200,000+ mile club 😎
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| 2nd Aug 2021 7:42 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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I bet its the inlet manifold. Common problem on the D4.
If you switch off and then on again it will reset. If you don't welly it but drive carefully with a light throttle you can make steady progress. I know this from experience - twice!  D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 2nd Aug 2021 7:45 pm |
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Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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G3Z wrote:A cheap code reader in the glove box is a must. Once you get home, order an Autel code reader and at least you can reset and clear things to get you home.
Yes, it was advertised with an IID tool. When I collected the car, this was replaced with an Autel (I didn’t realise till I was home). That Autel is locked to the previous owners email, and presumably he’s still ‘looking’ for the IID. 🙄
A situation I should have sorted before the trip, but failed to, obviously.
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| 2nd Aug 2021 8:58 pm |
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Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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Moo wrote:I bet its the inlet manifold. Common problem on the D4.
If you switch off and then on again it will reset. If you don't welly it but drive carefully with a light throttle you can make steady progress. I know this from experience - twice!
Ouch. Yes, Reading seems to be pointing to the manifold, but it also seems a pretty generic error for lots of things. Won’t know till I get a diagnosis I suppose.
Just not enjoying the prospect of having to baby it all the way home. It’s a  of a trip as it is.
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| 2nd Aug 2021 9:00 pm |
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Sea Raider
Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: None
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Whats your travel plans?
I'm in Glasgow over the weekend and have
An IID
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| 2nd Aug 2021 9:11 pm |
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darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
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Worth checking the hose on the left hand side of the intercooler, it can split and gives the same or very similar problem.
If it is split some superglue and gaffer tape or electrical tape will seal it till you get home. If the manifold has gone you might be able to find the split and seal it temporarily the same way Must stop buying shiny toys....
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| 2nd Aug 2021 9:18 pm |
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gavwhite1972
Member Since: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Lincolnshire
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G3Z wrote:A cheap code reader in the glove box is a must. Once you get home, order an Autel code reader and at least you can reset and clear things to get you home.
Hopefully a member local to you can pop across and read your codes for you
Which model of Autel would you recommend? 👍 Many Thanks
Gavin White
2013 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE
2011 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE (Now Sold)
2006 Discovery 3 2.7TDV SE (Now Sold)
2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE with LPG Conversion (Now Sold)
2002 Range Rover 4.0 V8 P38 (Now Sold)
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| 2nd Aug 2021 9:29 pm |
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Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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Sea Raider wrote:Whats your travel plans?
I'm in Glasgow over the weekend and have
An IID
Ferry gets into Oban 12:30 on Saturday. Then making our way down past Loch Lomond to head past Glasgow and south on the M74.
I’ll spend a bit of time tomorrow having a closer look at hoses various and the engine. If it doesn’t mess with your Saturday afternoon plans, I would appreciate a quick diagnostic check, just so I know what to expect when I take it to my local specialist next week.
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| 2nd Aug 2021 9:37 pm |
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jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
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I'm pretty sure amazon deliver to whatever address you tell them to, like as in a gift for someone.
For the price of a diagnostic in a garage that may or may not be able to see you.....
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Autel-Bluetooth-S...amp;sr=8-6
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| 2nd Aug 2021 10:00 pm |
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Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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Blimey, delivery by Thursday, apparently. Ordered. 👍
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| 3rd Aug 2021 7:31 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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My betting is it'll show MAF sensor issues. Advice will be to clean them or swap them around to see if one has failed. The only way you'll accurately know if its the inlet manifold is a smoke test. Most garages can do this if you're near one. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 3rd Aug 2021 9:12 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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If you pull the engine cover off, is there any oil mist settled anywhere? That is a clue to a split manifold.
I towed a caravan back from Cornwall to Manchester with a split manifold in my old D4. Stuck to 45, and most of the time it was ok. Hills were a challenge. Did have to reset a few times. Took a while to get home.
We had an iid tool plugged in and my wife had the phone on her and did a running clear of faults as we drove. Works to a certain extent, but pulling a caravan up a long hill it would fault again immediately. It was ok on the level.
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| 3rd Aug 2021 9:16 am |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Even if you have a loose battery terminal connection, that’s enough to set it off.
So, a very small point, but worth an easy check. ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
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| 3rd Aug 2021 9:28 am |
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Minemapper
Member Since: 28 Apr 2021
Location: Yarm
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No loose connections.
No oil mist.
No obvious split hoses.
Now happens as soon as the engine is up to temp.
Autel arrives tomorrow in theory, so hopefully I can get a clue before we have to leave at 6am on Sat. 😟
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| 4th Aug 2021 6:02 pm |
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