Member Since: 12 Apr 2019
Location: KENT
Posts: 70
Best all round tyres
Hi,
I use my disco 3 for the road and off road when I go shooting in the fields, what would be a great all rounder tyre.
My current tyres are Scorpion Zero 255 55 R19 IIV M + S
TIA
Martin
12th Feb 2021 5:31 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6753
Everyone’s got their own favorite - I like Pirelli Scorpion AT+, available in the same size.
12th Feb 2021 5:42 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
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12th Feb 2021 5:47 pm
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4244
General Grabbers AT3 will give you a more aggressive tread pattern for off-road and aren't too bad on road either, that said I've also run Pirellis and found them to be very good...I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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12th Feb 2021 6:00 pm
Gorilla63
Member Since: 18 May 2019
Location: Bewdley
Posts: 446
Just getting to about a year on a set of Duratracs (Done apprx 8,000 miles). Cant say that I've had any issues with them, they perform adequately on basic offroad conditions, and have been fine on all weather situations on tar.
12th Feb 2021 6:02 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
nigethecat wrote:
General Grabbers AT3 will give you a more aggressive tread pattern for off-road
TBH i doubt that... the AT PLUS is quite different to the older (just) AT
So for the Pirelli AT+. A +1 from me..
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Best regards
Harold
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12th Feb 2021 6:23 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6753
AT+ pattern:
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12th Feb 2021 6:43 pm
McAdam
Member Since: 21 Nov 2020
Location: Canary Islands
Posts: 129
I recently fitted the Pirelli AT+ too... The reasoning was this:
The Duratracs were used on G4 Challenge cars - not because they are the best, but because JLR has a partnership with them.
The Duratracs are 10 years old (don't know the exact age, but let's stick with 10) ... meaning the design, engineering, manufacturing process are all 10 years old.
A lot has happened in 10 years. A lot of new compounds, testing systems, manufacturing processes, better simulations.
The Pirelli are relatively new to the market, and Pirelli does spend a lot on R&D. They had a successful line (previous all terrain) but decided to replace it instead of keep selling the same model for many more years.
That leads me to believe that the Pirelli's are a better tyre than the GYD because: The possibility that Pirelli would release an inferior flagship product to the market that gets eclipsed by a 10-year-old model.... is really unlikely. Pre-Production
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12th Feb 2021 7:27 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2138
I’m liking Duratracs.
Current: D4 HSE
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12th Feb 2021 8:55 pm
Gorilla63
Member Since: 18 May 2019
Location: Bewdley
Posts: 446
McAdam wrote:
I recently fitted the Pirelli AT+ too... The reasoning was this:
The Duratracs were used on G4 Challenge cars - not because they are the best, but because JLR has a partnership with them.
The Duratracs are 10 years old (don't know the exact age, but let's stick with 10) ... meaning the design, engineering, manufacturing process are all 10 years old.
A lot has happened in 10 years. A lot of new compounds, testing systems, manufacturing processes, better simulations.
The Pirelli are relatively new to the market, and Pirelli does spend a lot on R&D. They had a successful line (previous all terrain) but decided to replace it instead of keep selling the same model for many more years.
That leads me to believe that the Pirelli's are a better tyre than the GYD because: The possibility that Pirelli would release an inferior flagship product to the market that gets eclipsed by a 10-year-old model.... is really unlikely.
The Pirelli AT was also a consideration. But by that logic, BFG A/T's should be the worst offroad tyres on the market.
13th Feb 2021 7:03 am
jamez79
Member Since: 03 Sep 2018
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 585
Cooper Discoverer ATT / Avon AX7 (Both the same tyre, just branded differently)
Been fine so far on and off road. Had one "Oh, I might be getting stuck" moment, but it was VERY muddy and slightly uphill exiting a field. Got out though. 8)
About £125 (fitted) a corner.
13th Feb 2021 10:04 am
Disco4YarmBoy
Member Since: 18 Jan 2021
Location: Stockton-on-Tees
Posts: 42
When I bought the Discovery 4 a few months back it had just been fitted with Grabber GT which I believe is essentially a road tyre for large SUVs. It is snow rated etc and in fairness has not skipped a beat in the substantial snow we have had here the last fortnight.
But would be less confident in mud etc.
If I was to move to all terrain tyres such as those mentioned in this thread I was interested to know if there would likely be a big difference in road noise due to the more aggressive tread pattern and accordingly if the fuel consumption was be materially lower? (More fussed about the noise). Currently on the GTs I avg 26 around town with a long trip being more 30mpg.
13th Feb 2021 10:42 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
Gorilla63 wrote:
The Pirelli AT was also a consideration.
There is a HUGE difference between the AT and the AT PLUSBest regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
13th Feb 2021 10:46 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
Disco4YarmBoy wrote:
If I was to move to all terrain tyres such as those mentioned in this thread I was interested to know if there would likely be a big difference in road noise due to the more aggressive tread pattern
i do not hear them TBH.... although when driving to the fitting station on just tarmac scorpions and back on thes AT+ scorpions i thought i heard a very very small difference..
nothing to worry about though..
and fuel... if you can measure the difference, you drive on tarmac to much
and therefore "pure" tarmac or SUV tyre is a better tyre for you then... you can not have both 100%
winter tyres with silica and more fins or knobbely tyres are not as smooth as pure road.....
but with the aerodynamics of a garden shed... i am not to worried in my D3 about tyres and fuel.. Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
13th Feb 2021 10:53 am
Gorilla63
Member Since: 18 May 2019
Location: Bewdley
Posts: 446
Motolab wrote:
Gorilla63 wrote:
The Pirelli AT was also a consideration.
There is a HUGE difference between the AT and the AT PLUS
Yes, I'm aware of them, did have a look at them, they do look nice. Not a huge difference though for the use in the UK. They are all much the same.
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