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winter tyres and all weather tyres
I've acquired a set of (winter) wheels for our xc60 2wd , the tyres are Michelin cross climates, 2 of them have 6+mm on them, the other 2 could do with changing. the question is, can I put 2 winter rated tyres on the front and put the 2 good cross climates on the back? the michelins have the 3peak symbol on them even though they are classed as all weathers. what's your thoughts guys?
Rick
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4th Dec 2020 5:40 pm
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I would, tyre companies will say no (they want to sell tyres), but as there's no law against it, why not.
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4th Dec 2020 5:44 pm
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Mixing tyre types, with different grip characteristics, is asking for trouble. Prob nowhere near as bad as winters (there are snow tyres but I doubt that’s what you mean) on the front and “normal” tyres on the back, but the reason best tyres should go on the back is to keep the rear of the car from stepping out. Will try and find the vid that shows it in action.
Here’s the vid.
4th Dec 2020 5:48 pm
rickb24
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cheers for the replies and yes I meant winter rated tyres.
4th Dec 2020 5:53 pm
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Tyres with most grip to the rear, unless your a fan of drifting My D3 Build Thread
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Have I got this right, you’d be looking to eventually change to winters or sticking with Cross Climates? I might be getting my wires crossed.
4th Dec 2020 5:56 pm
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I was hoping to keep the 2 cross climates with the 6mm tread and put them on the rear. so yes I'd be mixing front winters with all season rears. the video makes sense to not mix winter and summer though.
4th Dec 2020 6:04 pm
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Why not go for 2 new CCs and put them in the rear? Just a thought.
4th Dec 2020 6:07 pm
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Exactly, you're not mixing summer & winter, and I would go as far as saying the new tyres should go on the drive axle.
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4th Dec 2020 6:08 pm
rickb24
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I could do that but I thought the extra traction of winters would be better with it being a front wheel drive.
but the video proves that to be not the best idea ?
consensus is that most cars/drivers will cope better with front end "going wrong" (blowout or grip issues) than rear.
ever tried to get CostCo to fit a pair of new tyres on the front ? you ain't gonna win that one.
4th Dec 2020 6:29 pm
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Not disagreeing, but rather than looking at what happens when you've already cooked it, if you want traction and better braking at slow speeds instead of sliding on say ice, fitting to the front must be the way to go.
For every video that show what happens to suit their purpose, there will be those who are grateful of having some traction.
My wifes FWD car has sporty suspension and low profile tyres, totally useless in any snow or ice, yet 1 minute from home she has to go down a hill that the council never grit, no tyre is going to get enough heat in it to help, so I fit winters to the front. It also helps her get back up the hill.
Now, she is a careful and cautious driver, so drives within her limits and I can say she will never get to a point where the rear takes over the front. If you drive to your and your cars abilities and take into consideration the road conditions, there should be no safety issues.
Let us not forget it wasn't too long ago that chains or similar were only deemed necessary on the drive axle of any vehicle, surely the same as having winter tyres on the drive axle and in this case all season on the rear.
We all have our views, technically unless the law says it can't be done, it must not be seen as 100% verbotten.
As the OP asked a particular question, we should not get sidetracked by personal ideologies.
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4th Dec 2020 7:20 pm
rickb24
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Well I certainly can't argue with the facts that come out of the video, and I don't think he'd do a test just for me to say yes you can mix them or definitely not. but I've watched videos and read reviews on the cross climates, the feeling is that these and other modern all weathers are very good in winter weather, granted not as good as full winters but why give them the 3peaks symbol.?
4th Dec 2020 7:26 pm
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I’ve gone for full winter tyres on my Karoq 4x4 as I live in proper Oop Norf, the Highlands, and we can get proper winter severe weather that can last forever, well it feels that way. Hence full winters. Lots of discussion on the Skoda forum I also hang around re CCs and conclusion is only go for full winters if you really need that extra capability. CCs, other all season types are available, are a good mix of winter and summer ability and would well suit most peeps. If it was me I’d be putting 2 new CCs and then have 4 matching tyres.
4th Dec 2020 7:43 pm
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I might add, I live right on the south coast (Sussex), if I lived 'up norf' I also would have 4 winter tyres fitted to my wifes car, but I don't and therefore won't.
I have lived in the Harz Mountains in Germany when sub zero temperatures would last for 3 or 4 months of the year.
As the air was freezing and the ground even lower, 4 winter tyres were the only way to move around, so I am not oblivious to their positives.
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