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lee157
Member Since: 01 Oct 2008
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This maybe a stupid question, but with the release of the faultmate msv being able to modify the Car config file on the D3, would it be possible to do an after market fit on the PTMS system, maybe Wiggs, TLO and BBS SPY would be able to put their input into it with all required hardware and cost and their thoughts on it, if it is possible??
Or should i just get a Third Party one??
Lee
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 21st May 2009 1:19 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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It's a good question....I'm pretty sure it could be enabled if you could retro-fit all the stuff.
I vaguely remember looking into it a year or so ago.....from what I remember, you will need:
5 x valves with TPMS transducers fitted
4 (or maybe 5) readers to be fitted close to each wheel.
an antenna thingy that fits inside the headlining
some other bits that I can't remember now.
There's also a fairly long winded way of setting up/calibrating the system that involves fitting the spare on one of the rear corners, putting the D3 in a certain mode and driving for 'x' km/miles then swapping it over again etc....
I think Wiggs fitted a 3rd party one with Centrafuse (CarPC) integration - I'm also sure some of the Aussie chaps have fitted aftermarket ones successfully  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 21st May 2009 1:41 pm |
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pbhawkin
Member Since: 14 Dec 2006
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Lee,
Hi.
I have a TyreDog system fitted for a year now.
See;
http://www.tyredog.zylux.com.au/td1000ax.html
It made me aware of my left rear tyre slowly deflating over a 3-4 week period and getting slowly worse with the times to re-inflate it getting closer together. A small nail was found in the thread and repaired and now all pressures are the same again.
I organised a bit of a deal for 12 people and got a reduction down to A$350 or something like that I think. They will do furhter discounts for bigger orders >25.
I got mine from TJM in Sydney but they do have a UK distrubutor too.
see:
http://www.tjm.com.au/Default.aspx?PageContentID=10&tabid=92
regards
peter H regards
Peter
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2007 TDV6 SE E-diff, adaptive lights sold 1/2014
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| 22nd May 2009 2:24 am |
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The Large One
Member Since: 20 Apr 2007
Location: Down the polytunnel
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Basic kit required
4 or 5 TMPS units LR010532 £92.55 (For 4)
Pick up sensor RRE000010 £15.13
TPMS Ecu NNW501997 £80.72
Plus whatever needs adding if wiring not there TLO has left the building.......
I no longer work for a Landrover Dealer
My little chilli sauce business http://www.thechillees.co.uk
if you would like to order anything just give me a shout
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| 22nd May 2009 10:42 am |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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PaulP wrote:
5 x valves with TPMS transducers fitted
4 (or maybe 5) readers to be fitted close to each wheel.
an antenna thingy that fits inside the headlining
some other bits that I can't remember now.
OK....I had a look at this last night.
As Nick said, you need:
4 or 5 tyre pressure sensors/valves.
4 sensor readers - one for each wheel arch. Front ones are fitted in front of the wheels, rear ones behind the rear wheels.
Dash switch panel with TPMS switch fitted (this is the bit I forgot about yesterday)
The TMPS ECU that Nick mentioned is fitted into the headlining (it's not an antenna  ). This is wired to each reader (+/-) and also to the TPMS switch and the LED indicator in the TPMS switch. It also needs permanent 12V, switched 12V and 0V. Then there is the low and high speed CAN bus connections that communicate with the various modules (ABS/ATC etc) to get ambient temperature and vehicle speed.
It also gets info from the ECM about the engine state and timing/km data from the instrument cluster.
Also - you'll need to be able to program the TPMS ECU to tell it what size wheels/tyres are being used and other stuff....
It sounds pretty complicated TBH and pbhawkin's solution would probably be my best bet 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 22nd May 2009 11:16 am |
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The Large One
Member Since: 20 Apr 2007
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PaulP wrote:
Dash switch panel with TPMS switch fitted (this is the bit I forgot about yesterday)
me also
Dash switch £50 TLO has left the building.......
I no longer work for a Landrover Dealer
My little chilli sauce business http://www.thechillees.co.uk
if you would like to order anything just give me a shout
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| 22nd May 2009 11:24 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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TLO / Nick
Can you put together a quote for the entire system plus the relevant wiring looms?
The pricing doesn't seem too bad if you compare to the aftermarket systems
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| 22nd May 2009 1:28 pm |
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lee157
Member Since: 01 Oct 2008
Location: in the middle
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So just to reacp then:-
4 or 5 TMPS units LR010532 £92.55 (For 4)
Pick up sensor RRE000010 £15.13 £60.52 (for 4)
TPMS Ecu NNW501997 £80.72
Dash switch £50
Sub total £283.79
Plus Wiring/can bus loom ETc £????
Plus beer tokens for wiggs to be able to switch it on and hopefully it might work.
We're still a little off the £328 that landrover charge for it to be factory fitted?
I remember seeing all the options from the CCF file that BBS SPY listed but can't find the thread now, i know that all the high and low warning pressures were part of it but don't remember seeing anything about the wheel size etc
It might be cheaper and easier to fit one of these http://www.rockshore.uk.com/tyresure-tyre-...1689-p.asp
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| 22nd May 2009 5:33 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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lee157 wrote:I remember seeing all the options from the CCF file that BBS SPY listed but can't find the thread now, i know that all the high and low warning pressures were part of it but don't remember seeing anything about the wheel size etc
Yep - it seems to be all there:
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/photos/CCF_disco3_new.htm wrote:Wheel Rim Diameter
Wheel Rim Width
Tyre Width
Tyre Aspect Ratio
Tyre Dynamic Rolling Radius
Tyre Pressure Monitor / Warning System
Tyre Pressure Monitor System Transmitter Frequency
Tyre Pressure Monitor Switchable Pressures Push Button
TPMS Spare Wheel
TPMS Target Front Light Load
TPMS Target Rear Light Load
TPMS Target Spare Light Load
TPMS Target Front Heavy Load
TPMS Target Rear Heavy Load
TPMS Target Spare Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Soft Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Hard Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Over Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Soft Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Hard Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Over Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Soft Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Soft Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Soft Light Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Soft Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Hard Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Front Over Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Soft Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Hard Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Rear Over Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Soft Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Hard Heavy Load
TPMS Allowable Deviation Spare Over Heavy Load
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| 22nd May 2009 5:40 pm |
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lee157
Member Since: 01 Oct 2008
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Cheers paulp, i've been looking for that for ages on here, didn't think to look on the BBS web site 
You're right it does have the wheel size etc as an option.
Thats alot of option to try and get right, and it could be alot of visits to wiggs too.
Lee
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| 22nd May 2009 5:49 pm |
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Yargo
Member Since: 25 Dec 2020
Location: Europe
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Did D3 came pre wired for TMPS components from factory?
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