I now have another Disco3 (!) which, along with my defender, will hopefully be going to the same place in France next year. The Defender is on Nokian Hakkapeliita LT2's, which are pretty unstoppable in snow and ice.
My Disco tyres are nearing the end of their life, so it's a good time to change them. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on going all out winter, or going for a crossover A/T tyre or similar? It is only ever used on the road, skiing or otherwise, and I'm not sure I have the space for both a summer and winter tyre for it!
Any suggestions/offers of Tyres for Sale in the Hampshire/Sussex area appreciated!
6th Oct 2020 11:07 am
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
Forgot to say it's currently running 265/50R20's, so I need a 20" tyre.
6th Oct 2020 11:11 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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For purely road use, I'd go with one of the new breed of all season tyre. They're not as good as a pure winter tyre (although some are winter rated such as the Michelin CrossClimate) but they're nearly as good. The compromise these days is much less than it was. Some people run winter tyres all year round but that seems to me to be compromising in the majority of conditions in order to get the best performance in the unusual conditions. An all season would be a better compromise for much of the year.
I wouldn't go with an AT unless you need the off road bit. The compromise isn't worth it as they're worse as a road tyre than the new breed of all season tyres.
You do get what you pay for. Here's a review to start you off:
https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019...e-Test.htmVisiting from rrsport.co.uk
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6th Oct 2020 11:27 am
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
Super advice. Very many thanks.
6th Oct 2020 11:28 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
Pirelli Verdre All Season 255-50-20 it's an OE Land Rover tyre. Not 3PMS snowflake branded, so carry a set of chains when you go skiing, to comply with local laws, but you'll be very unlikely to need to use them.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Oct 2020 11:29 am
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
That's useful to know. Where we head in France we don't need chains, but I have plenty of chains and socks kicking around.
I've noted a forum member selling some 20" tyres in Shoreham, so have PM'd.
6th Oct 2020 11:38 am
MintyHit
Member Since: 25 Jul 2017
Location: Bradford on Avon
Posts: 234
I don't find AT Tyres much of a compromise.
I use Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus all year round and drive frequently to the Alpes in Winter - they are awesome in the snow.
6th Oct 2020 11:38 am
J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 4547
I use the Grabber AT3 as I have a need for road use, off road use and heavy snow/ice use when skiing in Austria where 3PMSF is required.
They perform well at everything and are pretty cheap.
I paid £118 each on Amazon for 275 45 20.2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
6th Oct 2020 11:53 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
The OP doesn't venture off road, so no point in compromising road noise, braking distances and fuel consumption by him fitting AT's. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Oct 2020 12:10 pm
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
MintyHit wrote:
I don't find AT Tyres much of a compromise.
I use Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus all year round and drive frequently to the Alpes in Winter - they are awesome in the snow.
Super thanks, I've read some reviews on this.
6th Oct 2020 12:10 pm
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
J@mes wrote:
I use the Grabber AT3 as I have a need for road use, off road use and heavy snow/ice use when skiing in Austria where 3PMSF is required.
They perform well at everything and are pretty cheap.
I paid £118 each on Amazon for 275 45 20.
Cheers. These would require a size change, as I can't get them in 265/50/R20 (apart from one website that seems to quote them at £429 each!) but they seem to do well in reviews. I note LT's comments below.
6th Oct 2020 12:11 pm
sailingaway
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 89
LT wrote:
The OP doesn't venture off road, so no point in compromising road noise, braking distances and fuel consumption by him fitting AT's.
Cheers.
I've had comms with Trailered Movements, and think his 275/40R20 Cross Contacts may do the job - I assume I can fit them to replace the 265/50R20's with no issues? Will they go on the same rim?
6th Oct 2020 12:13 pm
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Member Since: 11 May 2006
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If it was me I’d have winter set of wheels with full top notch winter tyres, plus a second set of wheels with summer tyres. I’m doing that for Skippy, original factory tyres now off and a set of Conti full winters on ready for full blown Heelands winter. OK, you have to swap them over every 6 months but that’s not an issue for me, I just get it done by the local garage.
Also pushed the boat out and have a spare of each type. This shows the difference between the 2 types.
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6th Oct 2020 12:24 pm
AndyViking
Member Since: 09 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 269
I can only speak very highly of the Grabber AT3s. They come in your size - AJS at Coulsdon stock and fit. I have used them in all weathers in the UK and when skiing in France. I always carry chains but never need them - indeed my kids call me Tow Rope Man because when it snows I tend to end up pulling other 4x4s out of the ditches on their normal tyres.D3 - 2008.5MY HSE, Stornaway Grey, RSE etc - all the toys
Grabber AT3s, Smoked Sweeping Side Repeaters
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6th Oct 2020 12:34 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
sailingaway wrote:
LT wrote:
The OP doesn't venture off road, so no point in compromising road noise, braking distances and fuel consumption by him fitting AT's.
Cheers.
I've had comms with Trailered Movements, and think his 275/40R20 Cross Contacts may do the job - I assume I can fit them to replace the 265/50R20's with no issues? Will they go on the same rim?
The correct size tyre is 255/50/20. If you deviate from that size it’s a modification and you should inform your insurers.
I see no benefit in you fitting a non standard size tyre.
If it were me I’d buy a set of used 19” rims, but that’s a bit off topic. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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