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urhunden
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm
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Sweden 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 4
New car

Have IID BT for my Disco3.
It s remapped and blanked from bell autos.
Appropriate patches used.

Bought a Disco 4 and an extra license to use the IID on it.

Now I am selling the Disco 3.
The best I think would be to sell it with the IID tool that has the remap and the patches.

I asked GAP if I can buy a new tool and transfer my Disco 4 license to it.
The answer I got was that this is not possible!
I have to buy a complete new tool with a new license for the Disco 4.
This will be expensive and the money I paid for the extra Disco 4 license will wasted.

Has someone experienced this?

Why can I not buy a new tool and use the license I already paid for?
Anyway I think it should b possible to buy a discounted tool as I already paid for the Disco 4 license.

Or is there another solution for my problem?
  
Post #210790422nd Dec 2019 7:36 pm
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WS7
 


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England 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Keep your tool for your D4.

Why would you want to let it go with the D3?
  
Post #210797823rd Dec 2019 6:00 am
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Hardware
 


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pm sent
  
Post #210798123rd Dec 2019 7:05 am
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DSL
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Hmmm, miscommunication somewhere me thinks. My IID had my D3, my D4 and my folks’ D4 on there all at the same time. Plus it would mean selling an IID on, a D3 registered IID couldn’t be used on a D4 with just the transfer fee. Pretty sure that’s not the case. Confused
   
Post #210800423rd Dec 2019 9:50 am
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urhunden
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2010
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Sweden 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 4

I think I have to give the tool to the new D3 owner as it has the remap end the patches that is needed for the D3.

But if I as GAP indicated I have to buy a new tool with a new license for the D4 at regular price, the extra license I bought is useless and the money paid wasted.
Maybe this is the only way, as there is no discount for a new tool for the D4.

Also i believe there will be transfer costs for the tool to the new D3 owner.
A costly affair.

And as WS7 points out that buying a used tool for the D4 is not an option as the saving is minimal.

I think this is something that GAP could sort out and give some bonus to a until now happy customer.
  
Post #210802423rd Dec 2019 10:59 am
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DSL
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Bung Pat@GAP a PM with the link to this thread. Thumbs Up
   
Post #210803123rd Dec 2019 11:07 am
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urhunden
 


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Sweden 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 4

Cannot find pat@GAP when sending a PM.

Do you mean sending an e mail?

please explain
  
Post #210814323rd Dec 2019 7:15 pm
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Hocks172
 


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This is a lot of whinging for £50? Or has that gone up?
 

previous LR D3 HSE, RRS HST, RR Evoque Dynamic Lux.
Current D5 HSE Lux 
 
Post #210835524th Dec 2019 5:07 pm
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aja4x4
 


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I would keep the orignal unit dont worry about the new owner
  
Post #210839424th Dec 2019 7:58 pm
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Motolab
 


Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
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Topic owner is from Sweden... he just cares about the buyer who he is selling his D3, very thoughtfull and polite IMHO.

Very “the Scandinavian way” as I know it at least..

He wants a sensible and reasonable transaction for a license het owns and has paid for..

I can understand that... if you own a key/license and buy new hardware, it should be possible to transfer it to the new hardware.

It works that way on my iPhone, iPad, PC, etc.

If Apple and Microsoft , starting do do this.... well then the courts will be very busy I think..and even the covernment’s will kick in..

Edit; typo
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 


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Post #210840924th Dec 2019 10:18 pm
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MikeO
 


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Try PM'ing PatGAPInnov
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<gone>2009 FF Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue</gone>
<gone>2015 BMW 520D SE (not my favourite car)</gone>
<gone>2009 D3 HSE Galway Green</gone 
 
Post #210841024th Dec 2019 10:40 pm
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urhunden
 


Member Since: 15 Jan 2010
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Thank you Motolab for the kind words.

I really think the new owner need the IID as the remap with the patches is in the tool.
As the car is blanked and the dpf is removed the patches are necesary.
A workshop updating the CCU and removing the patches and remap will make problems for the new owner.
Anyway that is what I think.

Merry Christmas
  
Post #210841624th Dec 2019 11:33 pm
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Motolab
 


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You are welcome...

I had or have the same issue with my company van, ford transit

Remapped by vantuner (who do also very good remaps for the TDV6 by the way) and blanked the egr.

I did sell it, but gave the buyer the option, default ecu mapping and egr open, or the optional remap with tooling incl, for an extra amount (pricing of the tooling and remap)

Buyer can choose
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
Post #210841724th Dec 2019 11:48 pm
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urhunden
 


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It is a little complicated.
The D3 cannot be returned to original.
To be able to blank I had to emtpy the DPF. So the DPF is still there but the patches take care of how the system recognizes this.
So just take away the remap and the patches will make trouble for the system and there will be fault codes.
  
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M3DPO
 


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Offer the Iid to the buyer at a reasonable price (£375) explain about the remap and buy a new Iid from Duckworths £405), that’s what I did, they come registered to one vehicle and you get 12 months warranty, you must have had £30 worth of use out of the old one, or you can just keep the old one......... D3 that is Very Happy
 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
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