Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: North
Posts: 786
A possible return
After three Discos (1 three and two fours) I have returned to the site after three years. Missed the banter to be honest...
Although I am still in the fold with a elderly 90 Td5 and we have a mercedes estate. Looking at maybe getting an early discovery three (04-06) as the other daily to do limited local miles alongside the new Mercedes, get rid of little VW. Budget 10k SE/HSE Auto....
Am I mad.... I know it won't all be plain sailing, but I miss the discovery brand a lot. The defender is great but is no fun towing a heavy trailer .....
Talk me out of the impending money pit 2023 Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Diesel Commercial
2022 Mini John Cooper Works Hatch
2021 Golf MK8 GTD
1978 Land Rover SIII
1993 Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8
2007- Range Rover TDV8 - SOLD
2020 - Discovery 5 3.0 SD6 Landmark - SOLD
2020 - Defender 110 D240 First Edition - SOLD
2012- Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE - SOLD
2009- Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS - SOLD
2007- Discovery 3 TDV6 GS- SOLD
2001- Defender 90 Td5 - SOLD
9th Mar 2017 12:39 am
MGCarr
Member Since: 15 Jul 2014
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 703
Sorry I am not even going to try to talk you out of it, you know you want to do it, what else comes close to offering the all round comfort and capabilities of a nice D3 at what is now a very sensible price.
Go for it,
1997 Defender 90 for the kids and I to have a go at some competitive off road RTV and Tyro trials, daughter picked up her first trophy over the August Bank Holiday.
Previous Land Rover history
1996 P38 4.6 V8 Autobiography
1996 Discovery TDi 300
1972 Range Rover 3.5 V8
LWB Hard Top Series 3
LWB Truck Cab Series 2A
Not been without a Land Rover for over 40 years - I must need therapy!
9th Mar 2017 3:33 am
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26750
Do it, the earlier the better, and get a V8. It's a future classic
9th Mar 2017 7:52 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
A 2016 E Class estate has some value - use it to put towards a small deposit on a late D4 and we won't speak of it again!
9th Mar 2017 8:28 am
Oswiperus D3 Decade
Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 1595
You know the drill.....look for one that's had everything done to it already, hopefully find a nice one on this forum. I love my 55plate SE I've owned since early 2009, it's now been demoted to my works vehicle having decided to buy a late D4. I can't honestly imagine being parted from her!Stu
2016 D4 Landmark current
2022 Defender D300 SE Gone
D4 2014 XS Commercial - Gone
D4 2016 hse lux montalcino red - Gone
D3 2005 se java black - current
D3 2005 base manual - gone
D2 1999 TD5 E white - current
9th Mar 2017 8:59 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72946
Buy it then get straight on the phone to the credit card company and up your credit limit. Or extend the mortgage.
9th Mar 2017 9:28 am
toolbox 28
Member Since: 27 Nov 2016
Location: lechlade, glos
Posts: 123
Definitely do it, I agree with Gareth get a v8. 54 disco 3 4.4 v8 now gone
06 freelander hse now gone
98 disco 2td5 now working on the farm
9th Mar 2017 10:19 am
mickyd4
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: North
Posts: 786
Well a new vehicle has been purchased.
59 plate Shogun....
Sorry guys
Still got a defender though so cut me a bit of slack. Good deal on the Shogun I couldn't afford not to buy it.2023 Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Diesel Commercial
2022 Mini John Cooper Works Hatch
2021 Golf MK8 GTD
1978 Land Rover SIII
1993 Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8
2007- Range Rover TDV8 - SOLD
2020 - Discovery 5 3.0 SD6 Landmark - SOLD
2020 - Defender 110 D240 First Edition - SOLD
2012- Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE - SOLD
2009- Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS - SOLD
2007- Discovery 3 TDV6 GS- SOLD
2001- Defender 90 Td5 - SOLD
1st Apr 2017 4:05 pm
maxbasscat
Member Since: 03 Jan 2016
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 1265
But it is a ShogunD3 2.7 Zermatt silver (not another one)
D3 4.4 V8 Zambezi silver
D3 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue
D3 2.7 (gone) Tonga Green
D3 4.4 V8 LHD Tonga Green
FFRR TDV8
Defender 300
1st Apr 2017 4:20 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72946
Sensible choice but you'll look at every D3/4 you see on the road and it will tug at your heart strings just a little.
Unless it's broken down that is.
1st Apr 2017 4:20 pm
Sniper1
Member Since: 14 Mar 2017
Location: Somewhere near earth
Posts: 75
Have to say, after many Jap and korean cars and SUVs (and a few pick ups too) i think youll end up regretting a shogun over a d3/4
Ok, so landrovers have their problems, but a good one or a bad one fixed is WAY WAY better than anything the eastern market can make.
We have a 2016 model Tuscon (the wifes car) which is ok and surprisingly well equipped, but the comfort and ability and size isnt a patch on my D3
And a 2014 one is still floundering in the dark ages!
I had a 2010 santa fe, and that was mundane, poorly equipped, and felt like a 1980 car
Im afraid anything pre 2015/16 in the jap market simply feels like a vintage car.
Id rather have my disco, be incredibly comfortable on long journeys, have decent space.
But hey, if you like the shogun, then what we all think makes zero difference anyway
1st Apr 2017 4:46 pm
mickyd4
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: North
Posts: 786
I do agree with many of the above points. I would prefer prefer a D3/4. After owning both in the past I know how prolific they are
My justifications are as follows:
Couldn't afford a D4, would have required finance. Can't be bothered with 3-400 pm for a second car, just can't justify that kind of expense, it isn't prudent without getting rid of Defender, i'd rather sell a kidney.
This Shogun, I have known the car since new. Belonged to a friend. 53k on clock full main dealer history. Top Spec. Immaculate. Got it for a similar price to what I'd have been paying for a 07/08 HSE with 90k miles on the clock....
Its not the best looking, and a Discovery drives way way better, the shogun reminds me of a Disco 2 in some ways in its driving antics, it does feel old. By god its bad on fuel too Good job its only used for low miles as second car.
It however, feels totally bombproof, and I feel confident that other than routine maintenance, I should see another 50-75k trouble free miles (the next 10 years).... I couldn't say that about a disco...
I will get another Discovery or new Land Rover product at some point. The numbers just didn't stack up for the moment.
2023 Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Diesel Commercial
2022 Mini John Cooper Works Hatch
2021 Golf MK8 GTD
1978 Land Rover SIII
1993 Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8
2007- Range Rover TDV8 - SOLD
2020 - Discovery 5 3.0 SD6 Landmark - SOLD
2020 - Defender 110 D240 First Edition - SOLD
2012- Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE - SOLD
2009- Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS - SOLD
2007- Discovery 3 TDV6 GS- SOLD
2001- Defender 90 Td5 - SOLD
1st Apr 2017 11:52 pm
SafariDave
Member Since: 19 Nov 2011
Location: NYC & LA
Posts: 775
I like the Shogun short wheel base 3 door. I would totally buy one, it's like a cheap copy mix of a Classic RR, Defender and a D1 all together.
DaveD3 2005 V8 SE Bonatti Grey "The Rhino" (our NYC D3)
De-tangoed Headlights, D4 2016 Style Black Pack Grille, D4 19" Wheels/ Bridgestone Alenza
D3 2005 V8 SE Bonatti Grey, D4 2016 Style Black Pack Grille (our LA D3)
D2 1999 V8 SD7 Chawton White (our Caribbean Beach truck)
2nd Apr 2017 12:11 am
mickyd4
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: North
Posts: 786
Well the shogun has had a busy few weeks doing 3,500 miles across europe.
Not particularly refined and poor on fuel.....
Done 7k since April since getting it. Runs like a swiss watch. Totally uninspiring though. We have also kept the little VW Up! Well that has been donated to offspring for free......
Good Job the old Td5 90 has decided to spit out its rear diff 2023 Ineos Grenadier 3.0 Diesel Commercial
2022 Mini John Cooper Works Hatch
2021 Golf MK8 GTD
1978 Land Rover SIII
1993 Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8
2007- Range Rover TDV8 - SOLD
2020 - Discovery 5 3.0 SD6 Landmark - SOLD
2020 - Defender 110 D240 First Edition - SOLD
2012- Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE - SOLD
2009- Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS - SOLD
2007- Discovery 3 TDV6 GS- SOLD
2001- Defender 90 Td5 - SOLD
25th Jul 2017 8:07 pm
D&G
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Charente 16480
Posts: 3483
I still have my 93 2.8 pajero. It is not a bad car and looked at the 3.2 did for towing. But unless I brought a late one the max towing was 3.3t. I need 3.5t.
The D3 was in budget and it is a better drive. It is going to cost me more in the long run though, already started to empty my pockets.
Beauty costs money. So my wife tells me. An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
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