annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
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| Cranks, No start P0191-23. Help needed |
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I had posted this in rangerovers.net but was told off because it is a diesel. Well it is a glorified Disco 3 with less space inside 
Sorry to bother you instead, I can't make any sense of this one
This is a 2009 TDV6 from Panamá.
it came in with a sticky injector after it failed various times on the road, so I went to pick it up by road with the boss. In the cool night in went ok, just a bit lumpy. There were loads of errors, amongst others a sick injector which showed in live values.
all 6 were serviced, one had to be replaced.
I have done the 20x bleeding.
there is diesel coming at the ramp.
But the engine will crank and crank and crank and won't start. Regarding alarm, there is a horn relay error , which I just learned came from a damaged horn. Somehow I don't think this would immobilise the engine or does it?
The only engine related error I get is P0191-23, my IIDtool zaps it but it comes back after every attempt to start.
IID Tools says the fuel rail pressure signal stays too low.
I had only once another error P0001-13 which IID tool lists as unknown.
after bleeding 20 minutes (ignition on off etc 30secs each time)there seemed to be more pressure at the bleed valve.
VCV and PCV work WHILE cranking, but there is zero pressure reported
thank you in advance for any intelligent ideas Fixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
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 21st Feb 2019 2:23 pm |
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annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
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here are the codes. I guess I won't get rid of most unless I solve the fuel pressure issue
Engine TDV6
P0191-23 (25) Fuel rail pressure sensor range/performance - General signal failure - signal stays low
P0001-13 (25) Unknown
HeadLight
B10A4-71 (AE) Right swivel actuator - Mechanical failure - actuator is stuck
( on 18-05-2023 16:14:33 at 195982 km )
Parking Brake
U0100-87 (EB) Lost communication with engine control module/powertrain control module 'A' - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:55 at 195982 km )
Suspension
U0416-86 (A7) Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module - Bus signal/message failure - signal is invalid
( on 20-02-2019 11:21:03 at 195982 km )
Terrain Response
U0401-94 (27) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 20-02-2019 11:21:00 at 195982 km )
U0402-94 (27) Invalid data received from transmission control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 20-02-2019 11:21:00 at 195982 km )
U0416-94 (27) Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 20-02-2019 11:21:00 at 195982 km )
Transmission
U2023-86 (27) Control module network signal calibration data - Bus signal/message failure - signal is invalid
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:55 at 195982 km )
Vehicle Dynamic
U0401-68 (2B) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:55 at 195982 km )
Ventilation
B1B74-00 (2F) Front foot-defrost mode stepper actuator
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:52 at 195982 km )
B1B75-00 (2F) Front foot-face mode stepper actuator
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:56 at 195982 km )
B1B76-00 (2F) Front left air blend stepper actuator
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:56 at 195982 km )
B1B77-00 (2F) Front right air blend stepper actuator
( on 20-02-2019 11:20:56 at 195982 km ) Fixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
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| 21st Feb 2019 2:25 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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If its not the fuel rail pressure switch, then I would suspect the Hpfp have you checked what kpa it gets to when cranking it over.?
Flack 
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| 21st Feb 2019 10:32 pm |
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annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
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Sorry to be a total moron, but where is the fuel pressure switch?
I thought I have been staring at the system for hours but must have missed that one?? Fixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
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| 22nd Feb 2019 12:07 am |
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annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
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BTW fuel pressure with the pressure sensor disconnected reads 20K bar, with the connector installed it reads 0 bar.
Weird.
VCV gets up to 40%
PCV up to 72 % when trying to start. Fixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
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| 22nd Feb 2019 12:10 am |
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Afrover
Member Since: 08 Oct 2020
Location: Essex
Posts: 2
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Did you ever manage to resolve this? I’ve got the exact same problem with my landy
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| 16th Jun 2021 9:28 pm |
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