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Scorpion Verde All Seasons— splitting
Car in for new rear wishbones today...got a call to wander back and have a look at the tyres. Said there’s no way we’re letting the car go out with the state of your rear tyres.
I knew there was decent tread left but I wasn’t prepared for what they’d found.
Both rear tyres have split between the tread, and were on the point of failing and causing a blowout. I check tyres regularly but I’ve never checked between the treads...I will from now on. The splits are right through to the inner canvas.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
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31st Jan 2019 11:01 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
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That looks like a manufacturing fault. The separate pieces of rubber have not been vulcanised together.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
31st Jan 2019 11:05 am
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
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I have to agree. I always run my tyres pretty much at recommended pressures so that’s not the issue.
They’ve never seen tyres split that way before "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
31st Jan 2019 11:09 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4519
Get on to Pirelli UK office, and ask if they'd like to comment. You might get some new ones in exchange!
It's useful for manufacturers to get feedback, and they might tie up an issue with a particular batch.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
31st Jan 2019 11:18 am
Erea
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
Posts: 1509
I’ve only ever seen that on old tyres that could be 8 or 10 years old. It would be interesting to hear what Pirelli have to say. I presume they would suggest over or under inflation.
31st Jan 2019 11:21 am
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
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Again, agreed.
Over inflation leads to wear of the tyre in the middle if I remember correctly, but the tyres are worn evenly across the tread so it not that."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
31st Jan 2019 11:30 am
Erea
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
Posts: 1509
Yes and your tyres look perfect otherwise so not only should they should replace them, but they should take them back to see what went wrong. I must keep an eye on my wife’s Evoque she has them in a different size.
31st Jan 2019 11:48 am
UNG
Member Since: 20 Jun 2008
Location: Lancs
Posts: 766
Normal procedure with this sort of issue is to get the tyres changed and get whoever changes them to return them for inspection and credit although this will only be a pro-rata payment based on the wear"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
31st Jan 2019 11:51 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1664
How old are the tyres?
I had similar but much less severe cracking on some Dunlops on my Fiat 500. They were about 5-6 years old.
CheersGary
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31st Jan 2019 5:16 pm
euangibson
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Location: Borders
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Bought them in November 2016, so just over 2 years old. I’d guess that means they’ve probably done between 15-20k based on my normal annual mileage"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
31st Jan 2019 5:54 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
On the upside, the new rear wishbones have sorted most of the issues I was having with regard to handling, cornering and vibrations above 50mph"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
31st Jan 2019 6:14 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1664
Thanks for the clarification. Just put these tyres on my car recently so interested to see this. I had Pirelli scorpion zeros before which had become 'stepped' on the outer edge . I rang Pirelli about this and they said to arrange for one/them to be sent back to them which they would then analyse and provide details of what had happened to the tyres. They said this was a completely free service and they would pay for shipping.
I agree with the earlier comment that , if you can, you do this and let us know the outcome.Gary
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31st Jan 2019 11:24 pm
euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
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Little update
Pirelli came back very quickly after I contacted them. I have sent photos to their technical department as requested by their Customer Sevice team.
They have also requested the tyres be sent back via a tyre dealer for examination, and aim to respond within 10 days with their findings.
I will let you know of any further info "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
7th Feb 2019 2:26 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1664
Sounds like a good first step. Thanks for letting us know. Eager to hear what they have to say (and do).
Good luckGary
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7th Feb 2019 7:20 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4519
Yes, interesting. Keep us updated.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
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