Member Since: 02 Aug 2016
Location: Stroud
Posts: 98
20" or 19" wit General Grabber AT3
Tyres and wheals advice
Ok i have D4 it is currently on 255/50/r20 Tyres and wheals
I am after some advice.
I want to put on General Grabber AT3's but i think there is only 2 sizes in a 20" Rim. And non are the same size as the originals.
So my Dilemma is do i put on 20's or do i get new Rims of another size.
For example 19' rims.
I use the car mainly on motorways but occasionally off-road.
7th Feb 2017 10:44 pm
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14368
These fit fine
G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
7th Feb 2017 11:05 pm
Iansjones
Member Since: 02 Aug 2016
Location: Stroud
Posts: 98
They look nice.
7th Feb 2017 11:09 pm
Alan B
Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Fife
Posts: 6528
Or these
D3 57 xs Stornaway grey
D2 02 commercial silver gone but a great servant and won't be forgotten
Have limited experience of both D3, and the AT3s, but I'm finding them great so far - better grip than the BFG All Terrains I had on my D2.
I'm running exactly the same wheel / tyre combo as the post above.
Just did a motorway run to Manchester and back on Saturday, and they gave me 30mpg per the dash computer. In 05 tdv6 auto.
Which includes about half an hour of B roads from & too the hills where I live.
If I'm honest, I think I'm seeing about 22-23 locally where I'm up and down valleys all the time.2005 Discovery 3 HSE Auto
2000 Discovery 2 GS (Sold Dec-16)
2000 Lotus Elise 111s
1972 Volkswagen Camper - Devon Moonraker
2014 Citroen C1
12th Feb 2017 10:22 pm
AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3224
The New AT3 is now available in 255/55x20 and in stock.
8th Mar 2017 11:57 am
Iansjones
Member Since: 02 Aug 2016
Location: Stroud
Posts: 98
Just an update for everyone.
I had a set of GG AT3's fitted by the great guys down at AJS (great bumf of guys and did a brilliant job thanks). In fact i had 5 fitted as the sold me a full size rim at a good price to enable me to get rid of the stupid space saver.
Anyway. I don't hear any extra road noise and actually the MPG so far seems the same.
Thing is they are about £40 a corner cheaper than the Originals. So that is £160 less on a set. And they should last longer anyway. So even if slightly less MPG doesn't really matter.
Key thing is they look great.
So can highly recommend the 255 / 55 / 20's
11th Mar 2017 10:59 pm
AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3224
Member Since: 06 Sep 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 754
Looking good.
Anyone know about the technical grading difference between a wet weather B rated (Scorpion) and an E rated (Grabber). Is it just a wet stopping distance or is it more involved?
Interested in moving to something like this, but my truck spends the majority of its life on the roads as a school bus. Last of the D4 HSE...
13th Mar 2017 11:58 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13126
I'm not sure you can really compare tyres between manufacturers, although I'm happy to be shown otherwise. Each does its own tests and although they follow a regulated procedure, they are done at different locations and times against different reference tyres. Even within a given range e.g. Pirelli Scorpions, different tyre sizes get different results - wide tyres are generally worse at resisting aquaplaning, for example.
Also bear in mind that D and G are not used in the wet grip classification (even though they are on the label). This means that a C and E tyre might actually be very close in performance. Confusing, eh?
Winter tyres don't get a separate set of tests because it's hard to test a winter tyre in controlled winter conditions. So winter tyres look bad compared to summer tyres because they are designed to meet a different set of requirements and this impacts their summer tyre comparison performance. As you might expect.
In summary, take the EU labels in to consideration but don't base your buying decision on them solely. Looking at comparison tests by magazines etc. would seem to be a better option.
An example: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...e-Test.htm although this is more road oriented than you might want if you're looking at the AT3.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
14th Mar 2017 6:45 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13126
Oh, and if you're interested in a tyre for occasional off road use that isn't just in mud, then the Pirelli Scorpion ATR is an excellent all round tyre. Great on rocky lanes - better than the Grabber at resisting damage it seems, will get through mud but not in the same way as a "chunkier" tyre such as the Grabber.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
14th Mar 2017 6:49 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23388
Naks wrote:
is that an LT tyre?
Nah, I still swear by the Pirelli ATR. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
15th Mar 2017 12:55 am
ror33
Member Since: 25 Feb 2018
Location: England
Posts: 1
Hi,
Do you have any images of these fitted, and any more feedback after a bit more time on the road?
I am torn between duratrac and at3's - any thoughts on the best options?
Iansjones wrote:
Just an update for everyone.
I had a set of GG AT3's fitted by the great guys down at AJS (great bumf of guys and did a brilliant job thanks). In fact i had 5 fitted as the sold me a full size rim at a good price to enable me to get rid of the stupid space saver.
Anyway. I don't hear any extra road noise and actually the MPG so far seems the same.
Thing is they are about £40 a corner cheaper than the Originals. So that is £160 less on a set. And they should last longer anyway. So even if slightly less MPG doesn't really matter.
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